[matrss]

A single one of the gfortran packages released about 20 hours ago already has 362 downloads, so I think it is safe to say that the non-python users of conda-forge are more than just a handful.

If you don't need it that's fine, no one is stopping you from using PyPI and uv instead. But for some that is not a replacement.

And yes, some things about conda(-forge) could be described as bloated. I particularly dislike the convoluted packaging process.

It is always tradeoffs and deciding based on your own use cases. E.g. if you want to distribute tested packages to users of your software then both conda-forge and PyPI are ill-suited for you. They (and most other package managers) do install-time dependency resolution, so the installation cannot be guaranteed to be tested as working at all. Some package managers do that better, so is conda-forge and PyPI obsolete now?

[jcrben]

362 downloads over 20 hours isn't that impressive. Not saying Anaconda isn't great. Don't have much experience with it but I hope the devs get paid for all the value delivered, which I think is largem

[matrss]

Well, it is more than a handful, that was the only point.

You seem to be conflating Anaconda with the conda ecosystem. This package is from conda-forge, which is a community project sponsored by Anaconda but otherwise unrelated to it.

I couldn't care less for Anaconda, but with conda-forge and pixi there is a decent general purpose and language-agnostic package management tool for development purposes in the conda ecosystem.

[lvl155]

See, why are you adding forge in there? Why do you think forge exists?

[matrss]

What does it change? Conda-forge users are users of the conda ecosystem. You suggested there is only a handful of those that use it not for python, I provided a counter point.

Or did I misunderstand you and what you meant with "conda" was either anaconda, or conda-the-software? But then the comment about Python doesn't make much sense.