[notyouraibot]

Bunch of racist Israeli hooligans that were thrown into the Amsterdam Canals got more outrage from the international media and diplomats than a livestreamed cold blooded murder by a terrorist.

This is everything you need to know about the world we live in. Palestinian lives simply do not matter.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Palestinian lives simply do not matter

Lives in Palestine get far more attention than Burma, West Africa, Ethiopia and Sudan [1].

The basic truth is lives far removed from us tend to be forgettable.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_confli...

[cultofmetatron]

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[dgb23]

Let‘s not call people „animals“ in this negative sense. Dehumanization is at the root of these problems.

[victorbjorklund]

So take Yemen where American weapons to Saudi Arabia has been used to kill people in Yemen.

[regularization]

People have protested the US bombing Yemen

https://x.com/davidmryder/status/1746049132027150672

The duration (mostly over already) and death toll are less as well.

[pydry]

It's whataboutism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[throwforfeds]

While we should absolutely be covering on-going civil wars and genocides across the world -- I personally listen to French news sources in order to understand what's going on across Africa -- the fact is that the US has provided Israel with over $300 billion since it's founding. For Sudan, that number is somewhere around $5 billion. So many of us here in the US are rightfully watching and questioning why our taxes are funding a genocide.

[JumpCrisscross]

> many of us here in the US are rightfully watching and questioning why our taxes are funding a genocide

This is fair. Claiming Palestinians are being ignored is not.

[emsign]

Depends on how you define "ignored". Maybe you mean "heard" while the only thing that counts in this matter is if they are being "helped".

[slt2021]

>Claiming Palestinians are being ignored is not.

False. USA continues to ignore the plight of Palestinians and continues to fund and arm the regime that kills them

[JumpCrisscross]

> USA continues to ignore the plight of Palestinians and continues to fund and arm the regime that kills them

False monolith. To the extent there is a single foreign policy issue dominating the American public consciousness, it’s Gaza.

Palestinian lives are not being ignored. There isn’t universal compassion for them. But the average American has more developed views on this topic than for any comparable conflict around the world.

[lostlogin]

> Palestinian lives are not being ignored.

How do you square this view with the current situation? The US has poured resources and weapons into Israel. Gaza is levelled, tens of thousands of Gaza’s people are dead.

The US might care about Gaza, but it cares a lot more about Israel.

[bigyabai]

> Palestinian lives are not being ignored.

In many US states it is criminalized to support Palestinian statehood past a certain point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws

You can argue that American citizens aren't unaware, but the politicians are born and bred to ignore this catastrophe. We have laws to stop them from caring.

[pydry]

The last genocide aided and abetted by America was probably the genocide of native americans.

[74B5]

If ignorance was not an issue, how come that money went to israel for all this time?

[JumpCrisscross]

How are these related?

I supported arming Ukraine. That didn’t rely on ignorance of Russia.

[nojonestownpls]

And yet far less attention than those in Ukraine got even at a time when the destruction and killing there was less than 1% of what Palestine has gone through. Within one week of the first attack, Ukraine got more mainstream support, on-air time, and geopolitical response, than Palestine got over a year of suffering through civilian murders and other clear war crimes.

[seydor]

that is evident, the puzzling thing for average people is why

[tim333]

In London there are pretty much daily pro Palestinian protests, not much for the other side.

[cmrdporcupine]

Speaking out about this issue in any way that smells "pro-Palestinian" has cost people their jobs, and sometimes even their residency and "freedom" in western countries, and is accompanied by smears and accusations of anti-Semitism against people who clearly are not.

I've lost friends of 15 years for remarking on my horror about bombings and civilian deaths. Nothing more.

I can't even begin to understand a mentality which cannot see the absolute asymmetry of power at work here.

The daily protests happen because they're necessary. And they're clearly not enough.

[asadm]

not sure what would other side protest for? faster genocide?

[halflife]

How about unconditional release of the hostages?

[slt2021]

could it be because advocating for the live-streamed genocide is not popular as one might think ?

[hersko]

You people would have been calling the US's war with Germany and Japan in WWII a genocide as well if there was social media.

[pphysch]

Why would the other side need to protest?

[victorbjorklund]

Maybe some people don't agree with Hamas massacre of civilians and the continued kidnapping of civilians (including children)?

[KingMob]

Nobody should agree with that.

The problem comes when they only focus on Hamas, and ignore Israel's kidnapping and detention of 10k Palestinians without being charged. AKA, "hostages".

[tim333]

I saw some protests by the other side saying they'd like their hostages back.

[dingnuts]

Tell me, where are Jews supposed to go if not to their historic homeland?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Mu...

> Today, Jews residing in Muslim countries have been reduced to a small fraction of their former sizes, with Iran and Turkey being home to the largest remaining Jewish populations, followed by Morocco, Tunisia, Lebanon, Yemen, Algeria, Syria, Pakistan and Iraq. This was due to Zionist recruitment, religious beliefs, economic reasons, widespread persecution, antisemitism, political instability and curbing of human rights in Muslim-majority countries.

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be Muslim," they say. Where then, should the Jews be allowed to live? Only in Brooklyn?

> Until the 1960s, approximately one million Jews lived in Iran and other Arab countries having arrived in the region more than 2,000 years before. Nowadays, it is estimated that only around 15,000 remain, as the majority of the Jewish population in Muslim lands were forced to flee their homes

https://sephardicu.com/history/jewish-population-in-10-islam...

Hamas could surrender at any time. They're to blame for everything.

[throwforfeds]

> The introduction of nationalist ideologies (including Zionism and Arab nationalism), the impact of colonial policies, and the establishment of modern nation-states altered the status and dynamics of Jewish communities in Muslim-majority countries.

From your source.

It's important to note that in a place like Algeria the French colonists granted Jewish populations citizenship to France, yet denied it to the Arab and Berber populations. [1] This fractured relations between the Sephardic population and the rest of the local population, which is exactly what the French wanted.

I'm not going to say relations were perfect before, or deny that Jewish populations weren't second class citizens, but there was a long history of being neighbors and having cities like Constantine be a place of refuge after the Spanish expulsion of Jews from Andalusia. I mean, in places like Mogador in Morocco, Jewish populations were explicitly invited by the king to settle and set up trading businesses [2].

The founding of Israel completely changed this and fractured relations that went back hundreds, if not thousands, of years. [3]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9mieux_Decree

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essaouira#Jewish_presence

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghrebi_Jews

[bigyabai]

Judging by the British Raj, choosing to inhabit a former British colony probably wasn't a super informed decision. If you attended history class, you know what happened the moment Britian left.

Violence begets violence, if Israeli settlers want to fight to displace other people then they will die in that process. Thankfully for Jews, there are other states they can choose to inhabit that are both secular and respect international law. These are, statistically, safer places for Jewish individuals to live than a state that instructs their army on how to commit fratricide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive