[Workaccount2]

For most of the kids falling over themselves in this conflict, history between the two nations began October 8th 2023.

For the adults that run the world and been around 50+ years watching this shit, they just want it to be over, and don't really care who wins. At this point Palestine has no cards left and no friends helping them. They have lost, and the adults want them to go away without human-shielding themselves to dust.

[lern_too_spel]

Go away where?

[Workaccount2]

Iran. Israel would happily pay for first class cruises and flights for everyone.

[lern_too_spel]

Iran would not accept millions of refugees following a different religion (Sunni) from the dominant one (Shia) in its theocracy. Palestinians would not accept transport as payment for stolen property.

[Workaccount2]

Maybe they should have thought about that before being their #1 sponsor.

But really any of their friends in the neighborhood should be willing to take them in.

[lern_too_spel]

They're not the ones who took their property. Why should they have to pay to compensate them?

Also, friend doesn't seem like the appropriate word to use here. Were Americans friends of the Contras?

[cholantesh]

>human-shielding

The '''adults''' are not the ones accepting this and other canards that Israel and their apologists keep bandying about.

[Workaccount2]

Hamas doesn't issue uniforms to its soldiers, except for publicity shots and some small spec ops units.

This isn't even propaganda or anything, go watch footage from either side of the fighting.

Dressing your soldiers as civilians is in fact using "human shields".

[cholantesh]

Literally no human rights organization endorses this claim. Meanwhile, the IDF has been caught on video forcing civilians at gunpoint to enter combat zones ahead of them. This actually fits the definition of 'human shielding', but oddly, it doesn't factor into your calculus. So much for being an adult.

[Workaccount2]

Why would I go to a third party when I can see the evidence directly? Both israelis and palestinians post raw footage on back channels.

You are pretty much saying "Don't look at the raw footage, listen to what these groups say instead"

No thanks, I favor primary sources.

[cholantesh]

Was my comment too long? I quite literally referenced raw footage in my second sentence; the point is that Israel uses a definition of human shields that only holds water with them and their apologists. And they don't even apply that bullshit definition to their own practices, contemporary or historical.

[tiahura]

Do you have the address for the Hamas Dept of Defense HQ, or the present location of their leadership?

[cholantesh]

I have the address for the many IDF bases that are in residential neighbourhoods, as well as the schools from which their predecessors in the Irgun, Haganah and Lehi stored weapons and hid their soldiers.

[tiahura]

And when hamas missiles are fired at bases and miss, most adults quickly forget. When hamas spends months planning a massacre at a rave, people give up caring about anything related to hamas.

[cholantesh]

How can anyone forget when it is introduced context-free literally every time an Israeli is held to account?