[pjmlp]

Besides working with it on servers on regular basis, and having had enough with it on desktops and laptops since 1995, last year I managed to get a NUC, where Ubuntu, Red-Hat and SuSE weren't able to boot from the internal SSD or get along with UEFI, only booting from the external drive worked.

So yeah no problem, and yes I know should have gone to the usual forums asking everyone and their dog if someone before me had ever succeeded installing Linux on this brick.

[anthk]

I have different opinions. Try my NUC. Reinstall Windows 10 on it; you won't get audio support unless you get especial audio drivers from a shady download URL (usually used from pirating services) linked from the OEM vendors. Windows Update won't help. Neither SDI Tool Origin.

GNU/Linux works, HDMI output et all.

[Agingcoder]

Unless I’m mistaken windows 10 is end of life in 3 months so this shouldn’t be surprising ?

[anthk]

Barely no one uses Windows 11.

[Agingcoder]

I think about half of all desktop machines , since MS is pushing upgrades aggressively. Many corporate environments ( have already moved as well.

https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desk...

[ForOldHack]

Nope. Win 10 is now a free year of support. All the way to Oct 2026. Thanks for pointing out mistakenly your mistaken. And is it surprising than hardware shills are pointing not pointing this out? You want Linux get a Thinkpad, and a mouse, and plan on replugging every time you wake. "It just works." Well guess what?

[Agingcoder]

Microsoft says it ends in October 2025.

What am I missing here ?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-suppo...

[pjmlp]

I love how HN nowadays mirrors the Linux forums experience from phpBB and Slashdot days.

[anthk]

Because with NUCs if you dare to gasp reinstall the OEM OS, if the vendor it's gone, with Windows you might get a nice door stopper. You can get audio thru the headphones/speakers output, but that's a shitty experience for your living room.

With Windows 11 it will happen the same.

[knowitnone2]

then don't use it. Linux needs less people like you

[pjmlp]

And I don't, Android/Linux, WebOS/Linux and VMs are good enough.

If others have fun making it work, good for them, I have better ways to spend the rest of my life on this litte sphere.

As what Linux needs, I thought it needs every little user, to make a difference against Apple and Microsoft, after all we are always told that now is the year everyone is going to flee into Linux.

[Agingcoder]

Agreed - my view is that Linux on the desktop failed and will never succeed and its mostly alright since people have shifted their computing needs from desktops to phones.

So the market for personal computers has grown massively with phones entering it, and Linux has won here.

As to the general state of Linux usability - I’ve been using Linux since 1995, and professionally for more than 20 years - it’s great for professionally administered servers or workstations, less great for regular desktops / laptops where things pretty never work out of the box which is unfortunately not going to bring in extra users …

[bytehowl]

Linux may have won on phones, but free software did not, which is the thing that actually matters.

[Agingcoder]

That’s a different issue but you have a point esp since the Linux vs windows fight back then was essentially framed as proprietary vs free.