[miellaby]

This article seems like fantasy fiction: 'We thought antibiotics were to blame, but actually, it's NO2.' (next 5G?) while it's widely recognized for the last ten years that the primary culprit is neonicotinoids: very potent and pervasive chemicals that accumulate in the biotope, killing all insects indiscriminately, contrary to the misleading claims made by the agro-industry.

[WillPostForFood]

Varroa mites are widely considered a greater cause of bee population decline than neonicotinoids.

[20k]

And neonicotinoids are directly thought to increase susceptibility to Varroa mites

[skeezyboy]

well whos giving them the neonicotinoids? just get them to stop

[phtrivier]

> it's widely recognized for the last ten years that the primary culprit is neonicotinoids

What would be your best source to back that ?

(I'm not trolling - we've been having a vivid debates about that exact topic for the past few weeks in France, and one common counter-point is that the decrease in bee population is multifactorial, as opposed to having any "primary" culprit. So any source welcome :) )

[miellaby]

Neonicotinoids kill all insects. They are extremely good at this. Noone contests this. CCD ("Colony Collapse Disorder") started as neonicotinoids usage raised, and so did the "windshield phenomemom" that all rural residents above 50 can tell you about.

If there were no parasite, no pathogen, and no predator, then bees would not be as much affected by pesticides for sure. But parasites and pathogens existed before, while habitat loss and monoculture farming don't explain what happens in relatively preserved areas.

All pesticides have an impact on insect populations obviously. I agree one should not focus on only one class of them, and work on an actual reduction of their usage and compensate farmers for profitability loss due to changes in pest management strategies.

You don't need to comment this. I know It won't be done and we're all screwed.

[neuroelectron]

So why the distraction?