[crinkly]

The problem with the CSAM detection is that it can be used for adversarial purposes as well. For example if someone decides an image is politically inconvenient and pressures it to be blocked by hash, then Apple may have to comply or remove themselves from an entire market. Building the mechanism to do that is not acceptable in a civilised society.

And of course does this really solve the real problem of child exploitation? No it doesn't. It allows performative folk working for NGOs to feel like they've done something while children are still being abused and it is being covered up or not even investigated as is so common today.

Improving policing and investigatory standards is where this should stop. We already have RIPA.

All this does is create the expectation that a surveillance dragnet is acceptable. It is not.

[EagnaIonat]

> Building the mechanism to do that is not acceptable in a civilised society.

This mechanism has been in production for many years on all service providers.

Example:

- Microsoft since at least 2009.

- Google since at least 2013