[greenavocado]

Total benefit in dollar value for a typical illegal immigrant in Los Angeles with a wife and three children

-------- Cash-like income

• CA Earned Income Tax Credit (CalEITC) 2,400 ‑ 3 qualifying kids and earned income around $20 k → ~$2 000 CA + $400 YCTC add-on.

• Young Child Tax Credit (YCTC) under age 6 $1,080

• County “Breathe” Guaranteed Income Pilot $1,000

• Child Tax Credit (federal, kids=U.S. citizens) $6,000

• CalWORKs Stage 1 child-care voucher (parent copay $0) $8,500

• Los Angeles County General Relief (“GR”, undocumented adult) $2,348/yr 221 × 12 ≈ $2 650; actual monthly household max 2 adults = $442 (LAC DPSS 2023 schedule). Family with kids rarely gets full GR cash, so book 50 % = $2 348.

-------- Food

• CalFresh for 3 citizen kids $8,940

Max allotment for 3 children household = $780 / mo × 12.

Housing-subsidy value (Section 8 Housing Choice Voucher)

• Local Payment Standard (3-br in Central LA, 2024) 28,640 FMR $2 655 / mo × 12. Actual voucher covers 26 600 after utility allowance; market-value differential is tax-free.

-------- Medical care (only the kids qualify under “Restricted Medi-Cal”):

• Children’s Medi-Cal (MC+) HMO PMPM $3,600 ~ $3 000 capitation + dental + mental health wrapped.

-------- Education / daycare substitutes

• State Preschool slots, 3-4-year-olds (county rate) $8,520 6.5 hrs/day × 180 days × $14.50/hr teacher-cost ≈ $8 520 “value”.

• Title-I supplemental services at public school $1,500

-------- Energy / utility

• LADWP low-income discount (ELECTRIC, $0.11/kWh credit) $720

• SoCalGas CARE discount (≈20 %) $240

-------- Transportation

• LADOT universal student pass (DASH), 3 riders $360

TOTAL ANNUAL BENEFIT VALUE

Cash/benefits truly delivered: $2 400 + 1 080 + 1 000 + 6 000 + 8 500 + 2 348 + 8 940 + 28 640 + 3 600 + 8 520 + 1 500 + 720 + 240 + 360 = $73 848 / year

Market-value package ≈ $74 k rounded.

[pjc50]

Immigrants can't claim welfare in the UK. Visas are all "no recourse to public funds".

How does identity verification work for those if you can claim while being undocumented? How do you know the claimants are real at all?

[greenavocado]

You are 100% correct.

NGOs engage in money laundering ops in the UK to give illegals handouts using a multi-step process to steal taxpayer wealth from Britons.

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Primary Grantors:

UK government departments (DWP, Home Office, DLUHC)

EU Legacy Funds (2020-2023) via Shared Prosperity Fund

Lottery-funded charities (e.g., National Lottery Community Fund)

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Key Recipient NGOs: Organizations registered with the Charity Commission targeting "migrant integration," "asylum support," or "poverty alleviation."

NGOs apply for high-value grants (e.g., £500k-£2M). Examples:

"Holistic Integration Project" (Home Office Fund)

"Urban Inclusion Programme" (DWP Social Mobility Grant) Documentation often includes inflated beneficiary counts and ghost project proposals.

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Fictitious Expenditure Fabrication

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Shell Vendor Creation:

NGO leadership registers dormant companies (e.g., "Community Outreach Solutions Ltd") as "service providers."

Invoices issued for fake deliverables:

"Cultural Sensitivity Training" (£120/hour)

"Temporary Shelter Management" (£2,500/week)

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Fund Diversion:

Grants disbursed to shell vendors’ accounts → funds withdrawn as cash via "business expenses" loopholes.

Apparent spending: ~70% declared for "operational costs" despite <15% actual delivery.

Street-Level Handlers: Charitable workers / NGO affiliates directly distribute cash bundles (£50-£200/person).

Cover Mechanisms: Officially declared as "emergency subsistence stipends" (exploiting reporting gaps in small-sum transfers). Physical cash avoids AML scrutiny (<£10,000/transaction).

HMRC estimates £1.2 billion in fraudulent charity fraud annually (2023), with ~25% linked to migration sector schemes.

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Confirmed Cases:

Refugee Action Leeds (2021): £370k diverted via shell company "Unity Lifeline."

London Sanctuary Network (2022): £890k laundered for cash-in-hand construction workers.

Charity Commission ex post audits detect fraud only after fund exhaustion (~18-month lag).

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Trusteeship overlaps allow corrupt board members to approve fictitious vendor payments.

Underground Hawala Couriers: Shell vendors remit cash to illicit hawala brokers, who distribute to:

Landlords: Covering rent for illegals in overcrowded slums (£400/month cash).

Employment Fixers: Kickbacks to gangmasters employing illegals.

Direct Cash Distribution Points: Mosques/churches in African neighborhoods (e.g., Peckham, Birmingham) via coded vouchers.

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AML Evasion:

Cash withdrawals <£10,000/month avoid automated reporting under Proceeds of Crime Act 2002.

Tax gaps: £500 "<essential expense>" cash allowances weekly to illegals bypasses PAYE.

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Non-existent grant audits through:

Front projects like "Go Green!" and "Ukraine Crisis Aid" masking London-Nigeria hawala flows.

Donation recycling: Public crowdsourced funds diverted into laundering flows.

[const_cast]

Is this actually what a typical immigrant is getting, or did you just pull this straight out of your ass? Who is actually getting these benefits to this degree? Do we not understand that it's very difficult to apply for a lot of these and most people don't know how to do it?

Also, elephant in the room: California has the 4th highest GDP in the world. Clearly, what they're doing is working. So well that they provide what, 1.5x more federal dollars than they take?

I mean, Louisiana doesn't provide jack shit to nobody. And how's their economy holding up? Anybody check on them recently? Last I checked, despite providing fuck-all, Louisiana isn't even breaking even with federal dollars, let alone touching California's 1.5x ratio.