[frollogaston]

It's analog though. Presumably the shape of the image matters, like horizontal lines are easier than vertical, it's not just a bitmap. He made the point of how many KB you can store in the song, but is it right? There are different conceivable ways to store binary data in that. I have no idea how efficient it'd be to get something 99% reliable.

[alterom]

> He made the point of how many KB you can store in the song, but is it right?

It's a decent Fermi estimate¹ :)

We also don't know how many songs we can get the bird to memorize for us.

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¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_problem

[frollogaston]

He said 176KB of entropy in that 1-second birdsong, which doesn't seem close. That's more than the bitrate of a typical M4A, for a much simpler sound.

Thinking about it in reverse, how much data would it take to encode 1 second of birdsong in the most efficient audio codec I can imagine. If M4A or MP3 with the bitrate slammed way down isn't a fair comparison, then some birdsong-specific ML autoencoder... Probably 500 bytes? Would still be enough for a Twitter tweet.

[alterom]

> Would still be enough for a Twitter tweet.

A tweet within a tweet!