[mschuster91]

Normally, I'd go and say "vote with your wallet" - but sadly, in the tablet sphere, it's either ultra low spec Alibaba junk or it's Samsung. No Fairphone, no Pixel, nothing.

Seriously Samsung, go and screw yourselves.

The reason I insist on rooting in the first place is because unlike iOS which has a true full backup that you can trigger from your Mac (and restore afterwards), Android decidedly does not, and a bunch of apps don't do any kind of cloud sync.

[cheeze]

Even then, Samsung lags hard in the tablet space.

IMO there is kinda only one option... an iPad.

It's an order of magnitude better than anything else out there. And that's coming from someone who doesn't really like Apple products.

Given that your major reason for rooting is something that... Apple solves for. Maybe there is another option?

[mschuster91]

Believe it or not I did consider going the full Apple route. The problem is, Apple doesn't offer anything in the 8 inch zone. I need a tablet that fits into my pant pockets.

And on top of that, there's no way to migrate the data from a bunch of these apps from the Google walled garden to the Apple walled garden, not to mention purchased licenses.

[bpye]

Is an iPad Mini too big? That’s an 8.3” display.

[mschuster91]

Interesting, thanks. The price tag is heavy on them though, the Samsung Galaxy Active Tab 5 is at less than 400€, the iPad Mini about 800€.

[mrheosuper]

there are countless decent android tablet not from Samsung. Lenovo, oppo, oneplus, xiaomi.

[mschuster91]

Oppo is Chinese, so is Oneplus, so is Xiaomi - those are what I meant with "alibaba garbage", especially when it comes to performance. I don't trust either of these brands to deliver updates on time or for more than two years, spare parts just the same, and that's before the question if one wants a brand that may be targeted by US sanctions like Huawei, locking the user out of Play Services.

With Samsung there are established networks on how to get spare parts and they have a proven track record of delivering updates on time.

Lenovo's offerings are a disaster performance-wise.

[mrheosuper]

what do you mean "alibaba garbage", Have you checked them ?

The lenovo 12.7 pro 2025 has D8300 cpu, which is on par with QC 8g2. Oppo Pad flagship using 8 elite CPU, and you still think they have trouble with performance ?

What a fucking nonsense.