[frosted-flakes]

The bit about Mozaik hits home. I use that software every day. It's terrible and I hate it and it's so bad that you have to quadruple check everything before cutting anything... but it does work, and it's cheap. The custom cabinetry company I work for has nested thousands of sheets of material using it, which has allowed the company to grow well beyond the manual cutting they used to do.

But the software is horrendously bad, and I struggle to understand how so many serious faults that have existed since the very beginning have never been fixed. Faults that hinder usability to the point you want to bash your head in. The fact that Mozaik is still in business (and has even been acquired!) is simply because there is no competition in the space—alternatives are either incredibly expensive (tens of thousands of dollars per year), or not suited to production use.

[longtimelistnr]

I am in the same boat, daily user of Cabinet Vision. Did you know the same founder made both and sold them off within a few years of one another?

[frosted-flakes]

I did, and by many accounts CV is just as bad as Mozaik, although significantly more capable.

Mozaik is bad because it tries to do everything itself, badly, instead of adding functionality to established CAD software. That's the approach Microvellum takes with AutoCAD, and I expect it's probably a lot better software, but like everyone in this space except Mozaik, they do the whole "contact us for a quote" thing. In other words, it won't be cheap.

[longtimelistnr]

Yes we've had this discussion with management before when discussing CV short comings. Pathetic offering of a program, and simply would not pass even the most basic usability tests in other fields. Microvellum afaik is only a better program "in theory." I have not heard much positivity from actual users.