[lycopodiopsida]

There is nothing unethical about: you are doing the only sane thing in this system and economics. Morons, who work themselves to death believing bosses shit-talk about “our mission” and “we are in this together” will learn it the hard way.

[michaelt]

In principle, we can imagine jobs that contribute positively to the world.

When a builder builds a house, or a doctor mends a broken arm, the community has one more home and one less broken arm - and the community is left richer even after the builder and doctor have been paid.

That house will be keeping a family warm and dry 20, 40, 100 years into the future, and the patient will be using that arm for the rest of their life.

I can see how a person with a job like that could take pride in the fact they've contributed to their community, in addition to the fact they've gotten paid.

Of course, a lot of jobs aren't that way, but have tricksy bosses who will try to convince you they are. Which is what it sounds like happened in Komoot's case.

[const_cast]

The unfortunate reality is that a lot of jobs don't exist to enrich the community, they exist for the exact opposite purpose. They exist to make the world a worse place. They exist to make people sicker, or cause more children to die, or maybe even to accelerate acts of war.

You don't need to do good things to make money. You can do bad things and make lots of money, and actually, that's typically a little easier. You can even create your own unique evils and then sell solutions to them.

[kelvinjps10]

In the workers side they could be doing good but on the corporations side not, like insurance companies charging way more for the broken arm than it should be and the house prices being way more higher than they should

[goopypoop]

plus the sepsis and subsidence

[benterix]

Try saying that on LinkedIn and watch the reactions. There is a huge difference between what you can feel and do, and what you can say.

[MarceColl]

I saw a post recently on linkedin. A founder was saying "If you had one year to live, would you still choose to work at this company? That is the bar to join <crappy nonsensical startup>". It was so incredibly sad.

[lycopodiopsida]

Since slavery is forbidden, morons are the next best thing, I guess.

[oc1]

Boy, please share. I need something depressing to laugh about

[MarceColl]

Managed to find it again, there you go: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/arnau-ayerbe_met-brian-chesky...

[oc1]

Way more depressing than i thought. If that's what these YC folks are even in public, i want my time back wasted listening to their messages.

[aleph_minus_one]

Interesting:

"How fast do you want to learn?": in my experience many companies in my opinion don't want employees that learn fast, because otherwise these employees would immediately see and call out a lot of bullshit.

"Would you feel ownership on day one?": in my experience many software companies don't want employees to really feel ownership about their code, since "ownership" means that the respective employee will be willing to fight hard that his vision of this "owned" code is retained and this code won't be "tainted" by "unworthy" ideas of other colleagues.

[benterix]

Wow, this is low even by LinkedIn standards.

[prmoustache]

Why would you say anything on Linkedin in the first place? There is absolutely no reason to engage there unless you are PR for a company or self proclaimed career ̶c̶o̶a̶c̶h̶ liar.

[baq]

If you are in a game of smoke and mirrors, you play the game according to the rules.

I don’t post on LinkedIn. Got better games to play.

[lycopodiopsida]

Well, if your boss doesn’t say what they think, you shouldn’t either. And why would even consider posting something to linkedin, in the first place?

[Simon_O_Rourke]

> There is a huge difference between what you can feel and do, and what you can say.

Agree 100% - if I were to bring my authentic self to work I'd be fired in about a minute flat.