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by Jzush 329 days ago
I don’t care for furries myself but I think so long as it’s legal and doesn’t harm anyone. I don’t care what an adult chooses to spend their own money on.

And neither should payment processors. They have no business being gatekeepers for anyone’s money. My money isn’t and shouldn’t be subject to their shareholders interests.

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> as it’s legal and doesn’t harm anyone

Porn harms everyone involved.

That’s a personal opinion not a fact with any merit. And as a personal opinion has no bearing on what an adult should be allowed to spend their money on.
Tell that to the sex trafficking victims. Are you a Tate supporter?

In reality, the belief that porn is harmless has no evidentiary support.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_pornography

It’s not worth debating if you dissolve everything to a black and white argument. In your definition someone sending a cute sexy picture via text to their significant other is tantamount to rape and slavery.

The argument is ridiculous on the face of it and just not worth discussing at that point.

Payment processors aren’t taking a stance against slavery and human trafficking by blocking the sales of X rated games on Steam and itch.io and you know that.

And payment processors certainly have no right inserting themselves into any transaction period. They are not the money police. For any other issues between a person and a product there are other infrastructures in place that should have intervened before it ever got to the point of “supporting human trafficking”.

Ridiculous.

> Tell that to the sex trafficking victims.

“Slavery hurts everyone involved” is true, but is not a reason to ban work that is not slavery. And that is just as true if you limit it to sex work as it is more generally.

How much poison has to be mixed into the egg salad before we avoid eating it?
Precisely the same amount that's in each of the other metaphorical sandwiches in the metaphorical buffet that is all other labour.
If you really care: normalize sex work, regulate labor requirements, and support sex worker unions.
“Regulation will fix it” is a common liberal cognitive failure. Proof by example: the open drug markets in SF.

Your solution to normalize violence against women and girls is a moral failure.

Oh, please.

I advocate for strong anti-trafficking and consent requirement laws and regulations on how porn sold in the US must be made and you bring up fictional "open drug markets" in SF?

I'm advocating for OSHA and labor unions for sex workers. Guess what, those work.

And you know what never has? Prohibition on alcohol, prohibition on marijuana, or forcing women to wear burkas for modesty. For their safety, of course.

I'm sorry, did I miss something? You and them said "furries" and now, suddenly, you're talking about porn.

Or are you immediately proving everyone critical of the payment processors right by showing that the "undesirables" will have their existence marked as sexual and then have access to the basic requirements of modern living shut down?

You perhaps missed the original article.

Is sex work a requirement of modern life? Should it be?

Every single reply you have given is a non-sequitor or wildly misreads what someone has said.

Payment processors are a basic requirement of modern life.

All that’s being banned is sex work. If people obey the rules they still have recourse to payment processors.

There’s cash, bitcoin, etc., your argument is invalid.

Their username has "poast" in it. This should be the only breadcrumb you need to realize you're replying to a troll.
To be fair, it's not uncommon to see accounts with usernames like "throwaway_84723" on here. The barrier to making accounts is low and the site invites a more "don't remember me" crowd.
I am not trolling. There are gaping holes in these arguments.

I am a founder who cannot stand what weak discourse passes here.