[dragonwriter]

> Where I come from, sharing personal data of someone without their consent is not allowed.

Where you come from, people arent allowed to share their own experiences interacting with third parties without the third parties consent?

Sounds pretty oppressive, but there are absolutely many jurisdictions where that is not the case.

[ioasuncvinvaer]

They post images of the men in question without consent.

[dragonwriter]

Unless they are intimate images (in which case revenge porn laws are likely to apply), copyrightable images for which someone other than the poster is the creator posted without the copyright holder’s permission (in which case copyright applies), or being used for commercial promotion or to suggest endorsement (in which case, depending on which states law applies, state law right of personality/publicity, especially if the subject is a celebrity, might apply), that's generally legal in the US.

[ohdeargodno]

> that's generally legal in the US.

Cool, I'm sure Tea is only available to report things about United States citiz... nevermind.

It runs afoul of about a dozen european rights to privacy, imagery and consent laws. And that's just by posting pictures ! Libel and slander are a bunch of others, right to a response is also another... the list is long. It is, once again, yet another dudebro trying to skirt legality.

[dragonwriter]

> It runs afoul of about a dozen european rights to privacy, imagery and consent laws

The EU is welcome to try to enforce its local laws on the US operations of a US business open only to US users, but I don’t think its going to have much success.

[ohdeargodno]

It's cute that the Americans think they're some special, unrestricted by law type of citizens: they're not.

https://www.edpb.europa.eu/system/files/2024-10/edpb_2024041...

That boat already sailed and it already happened. "US only operations" does not matter (which is already bullshit, as Tea does not verify that users are US ones, they merely disabled downloading in the play/app store): posting pictures of European citizens runs afoul of European laws. Sure, they can't come and arrest you on US soil. Just don't travel too much.

[Quarrel]

While the GDPR has extraterritoriality, you are over-reaching here.

Tea can collect and use photos of EU citizens, if it collected them in the USA, with (all other things being equal) no fear of GDPR violations.

So, yes Facebook can't collect photos of EU citizens, then process and do "stuff" with them in the USA, without violating GDPR, because that'd be the easiest out ever for multinational tech companies.

It is the location of the subject of the personal data collection that matters, not their citizenship.

[fc417fc802]

Unrestricted by foreign law, yes. Would you be in favor of having US law enforced against you? It bewilders me why anyone would want more of this nonsense in the world instead of less.

The document you linked is interesting but I'm skeptical that you actually read it. It effectively says that in practice there's no hope of enforcing actions against entities that are purely in the US unless their behavior has run afoul of state or federal policy.

It does note that if concrete damages are recognized by the court that there is a decent chance US courts will cooperate to enforce the judgment. But the vast majority of GDPR enforcement is punitive as opposed to compensatory so it's not particularly relevant.

I'm also not clear why you think traveling would matter. DPA penalties are administrative in nature, not criminal. They are also likely to be levied against corporations as opposed to individuals. My guess is that the extremely unlikely worst case is your entry or visa application getting denied.

[zoklet-enjoyer]

Why would they care if they're breaking European laws? They're not a European company.

[ohdeargodno]

European laws apply to any European citizen, _anywhere in the world_.

[Quarrel]

This is not true. Like, (almost) at all. (There are a few tiny exceptions, for instance, if an EU national commits child sexual abuse overseas, they can be prosecuted for it in the EU)

Two Germans shooting each other in Australia break Australian law, but not German law.

[fc417fc802]

Ah yes, the notorious extraterritorial "right to be forgotten". Whereby the EU military dispatches its special forces to smash up computers in foreign data centers.

[9dev]

No, that isn't true. To the contrary actually, the GDPR applies to anyone on European soil, even US citizens. When you're on American soil, you fall under American legislation.

[zoklet-enjoyer]

Are you saying the developers are European or what?

[oc1]

Honey, that's generally not legal in many jurisdictions in the world, including most of europe.

[umanwizard]

True, but we're not talking about those jurisdictions. This is a discussion about American users of an American app.

[ioasuncvinvaer]

Thank god the US is the only country in the world.

[dragonwriter]

> Thank god the US is the only country in the world.

Its the only country in the world where Tea operates or is open to users, what other country’s laws do you think apply to it?

[dyauspitr]

Why have revenge porn laws and not revenge libel laws.

[dragonwriter]

What are "revenge libel laws", and, in particular, how would they differ from regular libel laws?

[dyauspitr]

Harsher penalties for a specific circumstance.

[dragonwriter]

That's not really analogous to revenge porn laws (where the “revenege" part is both non-literal—the actual condition is lack of consent—and refers to a special circumstance that makes what is normally legal, illegal, not an enhanced penalty for existing offense.)

But if your proposed concept of “revenge libel” laws are just, as you say an added penalty for a subset of existing libel offenses, then while they might add more severe sanctions, they don't change the scope of what is prohibited, so they wouldn't change the calculus on whether anything is illegal.

[danesparza]

Nah, man. They wanted to go on a date. There is risk involved, and implied consent.

This isn't any different from a friend sharing details of their date with somebody they know (including pictures). If it's a bad date, I'm sure the tone of the conversation would be different (and might include "stay away from this person")