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by jvanderbot 326 days ago
One time I explained that I was afraid of tesla full self driving, because while using it my tesla accelerated to 45mph in a parking lot that was parallel to the road and only separated by a curb. The pushback I got was "Why would you use FSD in a parking lot". Well, "Full", right?

Same here. It's either capable of working unsupervised or not. And if not, you have to start wondering what you're even doing if you're at your keyboard, running tools, editing code that you don't like, etc.

We're still working out the edge cases with these "Full" self driving editors. It vastly diminishes the usefulness if it's going to spend 20 minutes (and $) on stupid simple things.
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godelski 326 days ago 

  > We're still working out the edge cases
The difficult part is that like with FSD, it's mostly edge cases
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const_cast 325 days ago
Driving is just mostly edge cases. I've thought about it a lot, but I think automating driving is much harder than automating even air travel.

Sure the air is 3 dimensions, but driving is too dynamic and volatile. Every single road is different, and you have to rely on heuristics meant for humans.

It's stupid easy for humans to tell what is a yellow line and what a stop sign looks like, but it's not so easy for computers. These are human tools - physical things we look at with our eyes. Not easy to measure. Whereas measurements in the air are quite easy to measure.

On top of the visual heuristics, everthing changes all the time and very fast. You look away from the road and look back and you don't know what you're gonna see. It's why texting and driving is so dangerous.

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godelski 325 days ago 

  > I think automating driving is much harder than automating even air travel.
This is a pretty common belief. Well supported too since we've had a high level of automation in aviation for decades. Helps that things are very monitored. 3 dimensions provides a lot of benefits given that it makes for a lower density. Not to mention people don't tend to be walking around in the sky
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david38 325 days ago
A parking lot is an excellent use of self driving.

First, I want to summon my car. Then, when leaving, if I’m in a dense area with lots of shopping, the roads can be a pain. You have to exit right, immediately get into the left lane, three lanes over, the second of the right turn only lanes, etc

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