[fennecbutt]

Probably in general, but not as much as you'd think.

For example as a gay dude, people still hate gay guys (lesbians are far more accepted). But they're just much more quiet about it now, and even if they don't hate us we still "gross" many people out, which affects their decisions due to perception of us.

[exe34]

Unfortunately I think lesbians are only "far more accepted" in the sense that they turn on straight cunts rather than repulse them. The objectification and othering is the same.

[wvh]

Maybe, but we can't blame people for what they are/are not attracted to on either side of the fence, just their rational responses to "the other".

And I'm not sure lesbians are "far more accepted", perhaps as long as they fit a traditional heterosexual idea of beauty and femininity and associated behaviour.

[exe34]

> but we can't blame people for what they are/are not attracted to

That's an odd thing to bring up randomly.

[topato]

I think it's because you said "cunts" lol

[exe34]

Ah the "straight" was the adjective to qualify the noun, not the other way round! I.e. the same cunts who will get disgusted by two men kissing and try to harm them, will get turned on by seeing two women kissing and therefore it appears that the latter are more accepted. It's not kindness or open-mindedness, it's pure sleaze.

[freilanzer]

> Unfortunately I think lesbians are only "far more accepted" in the sense that they turn on straight cunts rather than repulse them. The objectification and othering is the same.

"Straight cunts"?

[scott_w]

The intersection of straight people and cunts. Not to be confused with "straight people are cunts," which is a different statement.

[fennecbutt]

No, it's because they're perceived as less threatening or different. Men must follow what is perceived as a rigid masculine doctrine and a lot of gay behaviours break free of that.

Because even straight women prefer lesbians (just conjecture from me, though. I doubt anyone would bother running a study on it).

[potato3732842]

How much of that is a reflection of or reflected in societal acceptance vs just a figment of differing societal attitudes and standards toward women and men?

[Smithalicious]

I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure the definition of "straight cunts" is that they aren't turned on by lesbians.

[astura]

I think that the GP must not be American.

I noticed in Ireland (at least) the word "cunt" is used to describe an unpleasant/objectionable person in general (regardless of gender) whereas in the US it's a derogatory term for a woman.

[potato3732842]

There's at least four possible parsings here depending on what was meant by "straight" and "cunt"

In one corner of the matrix is a heterosexual woman and in the other corner is an ill tempered gay man.

[exe34]

Indeed, its a non-gendered term here.