[Alupis]

I'm still very curious why the P320 beat out the venerable Glock 17 & 19 combo in the Army's recent selection. It would seem being able to change from duty to compact is more of a gimmick than practical. I'd wager most P320's will spend their service life in exactly one configuration.

Sig does have a way of making every pistol feel like it was custom molded to your hand - but Glocks "Just Work".

[lenerdenator]

"I just want them to make one with a damn thumb safety and if this competition won't make them do it, nothing will." - some US Army ordinance guy about Glock, probably.

[giardini]

COLT 1911 45 ACP condition 1.

[lenerdenator]

Charged and locked, hard to screw that up.

[Alupis]

"Cocked & Locked" is usually how people refer to this - and it is easy to screw up. Under stress, people's fine motor skills vanish, sometimes resulting in the safety not being disengaged as you draw from the holster. Additionally, it can be accidentally flipped off during handling.

Modern firearms have multiple internal safeties to prevent accidental discharges (unless you're Sig apparently).

[lenerdenator]

It depends.

If for some reason you're open carrying in a holster (like perhaps a police officer or soldier would be), and someone tries to get your weapon off of you and succeeds, a manual safety could save your life. They probably won't realize that the safety is on, and when they point the weapon at you and pull the trigger, nothing will happen, giving you a chance to escape or fight back.

Without that manual safety, the weapon just goes off and you now have an aftermarket hole installed in your body.

There's less of an argument manual safties in concealed carry, though. The opponent shouldn't know you have the weapon until it's drawn, so there's less chance of them getting it out of a holster.

[Alupis]

I assume, based on your writing, that you have very little or perhaps no firearms training, particularly with duty carry and concealed carry.

> and someone tries to get your weapon off of you and succeeds, a manual safety could save your life.

This is something straight out of a movie...

[remarkEon]

This comment should just be pinned to the top for folks curious about why manual safeties are undesirable.

[gosub100]

Here is an entire video talking about it, by an attorney who works in the firearms industry:

https://youtu.be/7NXDuKQF9kU?si=uRXnYvhMMKIN8BKa

[deelowe]

I'd take this with a grain of salt. I generally like James' content, but he has always been a huge Sig supporter and throughout the p320 debacle, he's been more supportive of Sig than I think he should be.

[zokier]

Wasn't Sigs offer significantly cheaper than Glock?