[mosferatu]

Why is N. Korea in this respect treated as a boogeyman? Chinese literally do this all the time everywhere, and they’re a far greater threat given their government is malicious AND competent. But NK seems to be the punching bag even though they’re not that big of a deal.

[NoMoreNicksLeft]

Because Best Korea is politically/diplomatically permissible. No one gives a shit if the North Korean government is painted as the bad guy (maybe not even the North Korean government!).

However, this is 110% the opposite for China and the Chinese government. They are not permissible as the bad guy. So much so that it scuttled a Hollywood reboot of an action movie a decade ago (Red Dawn). Hollywood is on a short leash, but don't be fooled into thinking the capitulation ends there. Even our own politicians know better. If one were generous (I'm not inclined towards generosity) one might wonder if the politicians know that our economy is hostage to the CCP and do not wish to see us harmed, but the more likely explanation is that there's soft corruption that persuades them to sell us down the river.

The Chinese have worked hard, tirelessly even, for more than half a century, to make it very difficult to say anything bad about them without repercussions, even in countries far outside China's obvious sphere of influence. North Korea needs to invest in global propaganda efforts if it wishes to get off the jerkwar list...

[BobaFloutist]

>The Chinese have worked hard, tirelessly even, for more than half a century, to make it very difficult to say anything bad about them without repercussions, even in countries far outside China's obvious sphere of influence.

China's government fucking sucks.

There, that wasn't so hard, was it?

[NoMoreNicksLeft]

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[JumpCrisscross]

> if you did, you'd've just screwed yourself

This is nonsense. China's peak of influence over America has passed, due in part to some of that past heavyhandedness.

If you're in a job that's exposed to China, sure, you should be careful. Same way if you're in a job that's exposed to a prominent individual, you probably shouldn't shit talk them in public.

[alephnerd]

^^^ this.

There are very valid reasons to oppose the Chinese government, but it should NOT sink into jingoism or red scare style BS.

A globalized world like ours today makes it incredibly difficult to be heavy handed the same manner the USSR was back in the day.

(Doesn't mean organs like the UFWD aren't active, but their capabilities are vastly overstated for the sake of jingoism - and I'm saying this as someone who carries a burner and uses non-American ID at GITEX)

[recipe19]

Huh? Chinese citizens are free to apply to jobs in the Western world, and most companies are happy to hire them. Also, while the Chinese intelligence apparatus undoubtedly has easier access to Chinese nationals, the vast majority of these workers are not a part of a state-run syndicate to circumvent sanctions (or worse).

The NK thing is a fundamentally different scenario: you have people you're not allowed to hire lying to you and stealing identities to get hired. That's an obvious problem in itself, and the fact that it's orchestrated by the NK government to benefit the regime is only making it worse.

There are other parties that probably do the same, but NK is the industry leader, so to speak.

[ripped_britches]

I think you are greatly misinformed.

China has literally millions (tens of millions?) of hardworking engineers that do their job and get a paycheck

NK has zero of these people. They are basically a sovereign crime syndicate. They get hired and then extort or exfiltrate from their employers.

You might be exposed to some of the rampant anti-Chinese propaganda.

[mosferatu]

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[tomhow]

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[msgodel]

Not to mention the tentacles some other more near Asian countries have into both industry and the state.

I'd be ok with going after traitors if it were actually traitors to the American people rather than the global status quo. But I guess that's part of living in a late stage empire.