[pphysch]

My OP is more about promoting understanding of underlying VM technologies. Proxmox adds value, but also complexity of its own abstractions. QEMU and libvirt don't have salespeople trolling the internet to promote their use, so there is less awareness of what these core technologies are capable of.

[tlamponi]

Note that I'm neither a "sales people", nor is the one that made the original post, as that is Olaf from the Perl foundation, who reached out to me after I made a contribution to one of his Perl projects, if you must know. Tbh. I didn't even know that he would post this on some channels like here or reddit before getting pinged by a colleague that we were mentioned on the front page of HN. And for a fact, I actually know (and enjoy!) several people from the QEMU and libvirt developer community actively posting on other sites comment sections, or is that now a bad thing too?

And FWIW, I tried several times to point out that QEMU itself is only a small part of what we provide–even if not, just providing a good API abstraction around that is significant work, especially if it should allow two decades (and counting!) of stable upgrade paths and _without_ libvirt. And we nowhere hide the underlying technologies, we're proudly building upon–and trying to give back–to all projects we use, be it Debian, QEMU/KVM, LXC (which we co-maintain), Linux kernel, FRR, rust, or–like here–Perl...

But as you're rather dismissive and now even start to call people trolling I hardly see any need to take your writings as serious discussion, they do not seem to be done in good faith, and IMO doing it this way certainly won't help to promote FLOSS, that should be possible without being dismissive to others work.