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Technically, Safari is a bigger competitor than Firefox, and it's actually independent from Google. But it's not like it's better for the user...

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> independent from Google

Not really: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38253384

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Unlike Firefox, Safari has another huge corporate backer (Apple). Apple is drowning in cash. They don't need Google's money to keep developing Safari. It's "just" a good, low-effort deal for them. Apple doesn't have a competing search engine, or an intention to develop one, or an intention to promote a free web and "save" their users from a search engine monopoly.

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> Apple doesn't have a competing search engine

Because Google pays them not to make it.

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wasnt apple running a bot now for AI/llm stuff