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by duxup 334 days ago
>What we’re learning is that when we don't think about boys and just assume they’re going to be OK because they’ve been running the world and they’ve got all the advantages relative to the girls—and all of which has historically been true in all kinds of ways. But precisely because of that, if you’re not thinking about what’s happening to boys and how they are being raised, then that can actually hurt women. … And I will say, as “progressives,” Democrats, progressive parents, enlightened ones, we’ve made that mistake sometimes in terms of our rhetoric. Where it’s like we're constantly talking about what's wrong with the boys, instead of what’s right with them.

I remember a speech by Obama that occurred around the time my wife was sent to a class (she's a teacher) where they separated everyone in the room by race and she felt spent the class finger wagging at her group ... over the course of the entire class. As you might expect they told her about all the advantages her group has had if only because of what little they knew of her.

I don't remember Obama's speech very well but the part that stuck out to me was he described how when talking to people you will find that they don't feel like anything was just given to them, and how that's a bad approach regardless if you think they had advantages or not. He also seemed to hint that maybe regardless of their background, maybe they weren't just given anything.

I think we can recognize differences, but also when speaking to people recognize they as an individual are far more than those differences or generalizations.

I think academic information / study about general patterns are good when in the right context, but they're of no use when talking to people, often counterproductive, and often wrong.

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Reminds me of my orientation week before freshman year. They separated us by race and then told every group what special resources they had on campus and all the additional support they would receive. My group had none of these advantages bestowed upon us. At the time I found it bizarre and jarring because I had been trained to think that what I was experiencing was a "good" thing. This was almost 20 years ago.
If there is one constant in this country it's that the racists will be racist and think that just because they are racist that everyone else must be.
What's bad about the post you are responding to is the people involved think they are not racist. In fact, they think that they are actively fighting racism by doing this.
When the fact that everything is seen through the race filter ALL the time is what keeps racism alive.