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I welcome a good conversation.

Linux still isn't really ready for normal people who have other things to do.

Arguably if it's within your budget and you just want your computer to work, buy a Mac.

I make music and I don't want to fiddle with external drives so I'm basically stuck on Windows.

My biggest issue with Macs is not being able to replace the SSD. Eventually all SSDs must fail. Might not be in 2 years, might be in 6 or 7, but at that point the entire laptop is useless.

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"It just works" was always a marketing slogan for Apple, not an actual reality. It's certainly not appropriate for an OS where perfectly standard mice have frustrating, decades-old limitations like scroll direction being tied to the touchpad settings and forward/backyard buttons not working.

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If you stay in the Apple Box of supported use cases it's fine.

The customer support story is also much better. Instead of dealing with IRC channels and Reddit post trying to figure out why the latest kernel ruined everything, you go to the Apple Store.

I literally run Tumbleweed on my second laptop, I like Linux.

It's just not for people who don't want to invest time into understanding how computers work.

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I wouldn't consider products you can buy on apple.com like this corsair M75 outside their supported use cases: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HRYT2ZM/A/corsair-m75-wir...

This whole thread is about how Linux is difficult because you need to understand what hardware is actually supported and you're arguing that MacOS is different because you still need to understand what hardware is supported, but the apple store will sell you something else with a smile.

I'm not even denying that MacOS is a perfectly acceptable OS, I just don't understand your argument.

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Actually, you kinda have a point.

They shouldn't be selling 3rd party hardware, with an over 100% markup, that isn't well supported.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/gaming-mouse/CH-931D101-NA/m...

It's less than half the price anywhere else.

But Apple's argument is it's not on them if a 3rd party mouse they happen to sell has issues.

With Linux you need to do significantly more work to get setup and every now and then a kernel update can ruin your day.

I want something Ubuntu stable that actually supports newer hardware, but that's just not where Linux is at.

The Linux community is amazing, but they lack the capacity to QA every possible laptop on the market.

Just a few days ago the sound on my Tumbleweed install decided to stop working. I thought about reinstalling, Chat GPT suggested I just accept audio not working and using a USB sound card.

Eventually, thinking as a last ditch effort, I asked Chat GPT how to completely reinstall the audio stack.

This went and removed my KDE desktop for some reason. Cool, I'll install Xfce from the tty.

I then installed Budgie since it's a bit easier to use.

All this because for some reason my sound didn't feel like working.

We, the types of people who visit this site, enjoy the process.

Not everyone does.

Macs definitely have issues too.

But you can go to the Apple store and have them figure it out.

Plus a routine update probably won't stop audio from working.

I've been using Desktop Linux for about 20 years.

It's better now, but it's still work to use.