[JohnFen]

> I have a feeling I will need to settle for finding and restoring a car from before 1990.

You don't have to go back that far. I'm with you, I'm actively repulsed by newer cars because (in part) of the touch screens and other such nonsense, so I expect that I'll never be buying a car that was manufactured too recently.

But my current car is acceptable, and it was made it 2008.

[thfuran]

My car has suffered through 20 salty winters, and I'm not sure it's going to be acceptable much longer. Which is unfortunate, because it seems like new cars mostly aren't.