[lucianbr]

> I've worked with Java for 25 years and have a love/hate relationship.

> Java garbage collection is both great, and terrible.

> Nothing Java can be blamed for

I mean, it's not like we're discussing Java or anything. So they hate java because of something that can happen in any language?

[lolive]

They expected not to have to deal with memory at all, I presume ;)

[to go a bit off topic, the debugging of those issues is reasonably tool-assisted in Java, whereas I honestly don’t know how to solve them in, let’s say, Javascript/TS).