[Tade0]

The further away you are from VC money, the more "boring" technologies like Java make sense.

Whole careers have been built on producing CRUD web applications with Java on the backend and Angular on the frontend.

It's not exciting, but so is life without income in countries where this line of work is something to aspire to. I should know, as I live in such a country.

[jajko]

I refuse to jump on this oh-so-popular bandwagon of (seemingly) everybody complaining how java is uncool ad nauseum. You can make cool stuff in literally any language, and syntactic sugar around and how to express it are details. That's junior dev thinking, chasing fads, repeating others and not forming one's own opinions. This is mine.

[Tade0]

Mine is that I need to protect the uncool status of Java and the like so that certain people and their egos will stay out.

There are, of course, other certain people and their even bigger egos already in this space, but it's enough to avoid the training/certification treadmill to not have to deal with them.

Point being it's good that a hammer is a hammer and its best that no one tries to reinvent it. I don't care how cool my hammer is as I'm not excited to drive nails into planks.