[benreesman]

Knowing what code runs when i invoke an executable or grant it permissions is a fucking prerequisite for any kind of fucking security.

Portability is to any fucking kernel in a decade at the ABI level. You dont sound stupid, which means youre being dishonest. Take it somewhere else before this gets okd school Linus.

I have no fucking patience when it comes to eirher Drepper and his goons or the useful idiots parroting that tripe at the expense of less technical people.

edit: I don't like losing my temper anywhere, especially in a community where I go way back. I'd like to clarify that I see this very much in terms of people with power (technical sophistication) and their relationship to people who are more vulnerable (those lacking that sophistication) in matters of extremely high stakes. The stakes at the low end are the cost and availability of computing. The high end is as much oppressive regime warrantless wiretap Gestapo shit as you want to think about.

Hackers have a responsibility to those less technical.