[bravesoul2]

Yeah I find abstraction layers suck a bit. Same with miso and uv (for python). They don't "just work TM" and now I have 2 problems. By just work I couldn't install miso onto a fresh Ubuntu without 404 errors and uv kept bitching about my pyproject file instead of just working or trying to fix it.

Some of these tools do just work. E.g. nvm seems to just work and is much nicer than raw node installs.

[sunshowers]

Note that jj is not a frontend for git or an abstraction layer over git — rather, the git object store format is one of at least two backends to jj.

[bravesoul2]

Thanks. That would make me interested in it for a personal project where I only use jj.

[stouset]

There's really no cost to trying it out on an existing project with other people. It natively interoperates with git. Nobody needs to know you're using something different, and you can always fall back to using git commands if you need to do something you haven't learned yet.

[what]

What is miso?

[jph]

Possibly means mise (https://mise.jdx.dev/) which is a tool similar to uv in the sense of managing versions.

[nchmy]

Mise and jj (and the jjui TUI) are my two favourite tools, by far

[bravesoul2]

Correct mise. Sorry!