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by mixmastamyk 334 days ago
What does ”looks painfully dated” mean? I hope that doesn’t mean they avoiding bad ideas like hidden scrollbars or menus.

I think mint+cinnamon is fantastic, my only gripe is that packages get old after a release has been out a year or two.

edit: specifics please.
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cosmic_cheese 334 days ago
As someone who appreciates Cinnamon’s approach, it does have a number of rough edges that make it feel less smooth and polished than it could be, compared to even e.g. Windows 7 or OS X 10.9. The practical impact is minimal, but for someone coming from outside of the Linux sphere I could see it leaving a less than stellar impression.
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rangerelf 334 days ago
I'm still waiting for specifics.

I've been running Mint for ... longer than I care to remember, many years, and it's been flawless for me. I see windows users around me raging when it decides to just freeze, or has weird twitchy behavior, and I just keep on going.

And no, I don't spend hours upon hours tweaking and troubleshooting until it's "just right"; Mint convinced me because it was 99% "just right" out of the box.

Compared to when I used W10 and earlier, it's been sheer joy. It just stays out of the way and lets me do what I need to do.

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cosmic_cheese 333 days ago
Windows absolutely issues like you’re describing, but that’s not what I’m talking about (though not needing to tweak and troubleshoot desktop Linux is very much a YMMV thing in my experience, and I’ve played with Fedora, Ubuntu + derivatives (Mint, pop, etc), and arch derivatives among others a lot over the years).

For Cinnamon specifically I’m talking more UX/UI/visual polish sorts of things. There’s little papercuts all over that don’t make much difference individually but give an impression that it’s not quite finished. It isn’t unique in this regard though, you see this in all the DEs to some degree. It really just boils down to a lack of attention to detail and/or unevenly distributed attention (some things have been heavily iterated on, others implemented just well enough to check a box).

Some of the newer Wayland tiling WMs are better about this and are a lot more detail-oriented, but well, tiling WMs aren’t my thing at all. I’m much more in the traditional desktop camp.

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