[perihelions]

> "This was first reported by Waypoint, which has since pulled its two articles on the subject without explanation. The articles' author, Ana Valens, has alleged that Vice's parent company, Savage Ventures, removed the articles due to concerns over their controversial content rather than any error in the reporting."

"Vice" shut down last year[0]; its brand was recently purchased and is now run by a hedge fund based in Nashville. I think this incident very clearly sums up the difference between what's news journalism, and what's a vapid content farm operated by financebros.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39476074 ("Vice website is shutting down (writing.exchange)"—459 comments)

[mardifoufs]

I mean, Vice was more or less founded by the most stereotypical "dudebros" so I'm not sure if that's actually a good example of that

[reactordev]

One would argue, are there any "news" organizations left? Or are they all operating from a content farm operated by financebros position? Can you name me one news organization that isn't owned by a parent company that has vested interests in specific stories and outcomes?

[i_am_proteus]

Christian Science Monitor (nonprofit run, the religion really is siloed to the "Christian Science Perspective" section and the reporting is good and as independent as it comes)

[ascorbic]

The Guardian is owned by an independent trust: https://www.theguardian.com/about

[carefulfungi]

https://www.trustworthymedia.org/list-of-independent-media/

[drngdds]

404 Media is owned by its reporters

[mvdtnz]

There are lots of news organisations not owned by parent companies with vested interests. RNZ in New Zealand, ABC in Australia, CBC in Canada and BBC in UK to name just a handful.

[mastercheph]

*or state owned media organizations.

[mvdtnz]

Why exclude them from real news orgs?

[rf15]

Because they will (pretend to?) be legitimate and neutral sources until it suits the state/owners otherwise (e.g. BBC, Al Jazeera)

[larodi]

Wondering the same for a while. And does paying for news provide any guarantees…?

[bitwize]

Al Jazeera?

[NietzscheanNull]

Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan. Can't recommend it enough.

[miltonlost]

ProPublica generally.

[bitwize]

Ana Valens, also of "cis woman breeding farm" fame, is really not one who should be complaining about censorship. Far as she's concerned, when they go after her gooner games it's just a matter of the wrong people being censored. No bad tactics, only bad targets, amirite?