[biimugan]

I've never understood this argument. When I drive, I'm relying on more than just vision. I'm relying on sound, tactile feedback, an understanding of traffic law, an understanding of human behavior on the road (some of which is specific to my locality, the time of day, etc.), an understanding of weather conditions and geography, past problems I've run into on the road and heuristics I've learned over time to improve safety, weighing the risks vs benefits of certain maneuvers (especially considering how specific cars around me are behaving), and so forth. Some of this a purely vision focused FSD could simulate. But much of it it cannot. That's why alternate sensing systems really are needed, whether it's LIDAR or something else.

[josephcsible]

Which of the things in your list can LIDAR provide a replacement for?

[CyberMacGyver]

Every thing is a sensor. It provides input. Tesla decided to remove more and more input while claiming it’s better. Even Tesla knows because the robo taxis need more sensors than they sell in stores. So latest HW4 you buy is already obsolete

[biimugan]

In the sense that LIDAR can detect some things that visible light sensors cannot, it can make up (in some respects) for the lack of those other capabilities. It's not meant to replace them per se, but to provide another dimension of detection.