[FirmwareBurner]

> Recently, it took me like six weeks to get an MRI to diagnose a broken pelvis.

Bruh, where I am in European socialized medicine land, six weeks wait for an MRI is rookie numbers. How about 6-12 months. Sure, you might die until you get your turn, but at least it's "free"*.

*) paid form everyone's taxes

[fisherjeff]

Six weeks is also very far from “immediate”

EDIT: Spot checking in a Canadian town with similar demographics as my own shows wait times roughly comparable to mine, and nothing anywhere near 6-12 months - worst case is about 14 weeks.

[FirmwareBurner]

I said I was form Europe, not Canada.

[fisherjeff]

Right. I still don’t think your original contention that for-profit systems are, in general, orders of magnitude better than socialized ones is accurate, but I do concede that your particular situation seems pretty bad.

EDIT: Just checked NHS too, most recent month had ~3% of MRIs waitlisted more than 13 weeks, so pretty similar in that European country as well.

[FirmwareBurner]

I don't live in the UK either. That's linke me saying American wait times are not so bad and Googling data from Mexico.

[fisherjeff]

I mean if we’re doing analogies here, I’d say it’s more like you said “the sky’s always blue in the US”, and I said “actually it’s kind of cloudy here right now, and in fact it’s often as cloudy as other places.” To which you just keep responding that I’m wrong because there’s a tornado outside your house.

[const_cast]

The US medical system is objectively bad, period. It's not even an argument so please stop trying.

Not only do we pay significantly more, but we have significantly worse health care outcomes. The hallucination and delusion that Americans get "good healthcare" because they pay so much is just not true. We, objectively, get worse healthcare.