[mdorazio]

> FSD is more reliable Citation needed. And not Tesla’s typical lying with shitty statistics data (fun fact: most car accidents do not happen in places where FSD is commonly used).

Also, vision-only systems work great… if they’re backed by strong intelligence.

[maxlin]

So would you rather have the actual data fed to you by a different parent? Airplane goes brrrr ! https://insideevs.com/news/720730/tesla-autopilot-crash-data...

>fun fact: most car accidents do not happen in places where FSD is commonly used

How is that even supposed to in any way be relevant when talking exactly about cases where FSD and similar are used. Sigh.

>Also, vision-only systems work great… if they’re backed by strong intelligence.

Yes. And I do recognize that "Best, with custom in-house NN hw" might not still be "Strong" on all aspiratory statistics. But its already much above human capability, and regardless if you want to try to say the stats are 2x 3x, even 4x exaggerated, they'd still blow the alternative safety standard out of the water.

[Joel_Mckay]

Only cameras? I respectfully disagree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ

[maxlin]

Your previous link was of that old BBC vision test, comparing being safe from danger to being able to see obviously irrelevant details of a video.

And now you link that debunked Mark Rober video that literally doesn't even have FSD turned on, while giving the most ridiculous free wins to LIDAR. Talk about writing the tests for the exact limits of a specific system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhX_fgekpk0

You're really running out of steam :D

[Joel_Mckay]

Kind of sus, but it is consistent with other reported incidents including at least 1 fatality with FSD.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/07/business/nhtsa-tesla-smart-su...

Best of luck =3

[maxlin]

"Consistent" comparing a video with a literal billboard of a road in the middle of a road to real life? With the entire FSD feature turned off in the video by the way :D ?

And one fatality with the most dangerous general form of transportation we have?

And an article about a fancy pants 5 miles a hour park retrieval feature bending a few posts as if it was relevant?

Dude I don't need luck, I could roll ten D12 ones in a row and win

[Joel_Mckay]

One of the YT videos is probably incorrect, but other data under less demanding conditions already suggests FSD camera only options don't work as advertised within cities.

I'd rather not have drivers playing dice while driving. =3

[maxlin]

some data suggests maybe this result in maybe some condition maybe

ok