[jjani]

> cheese is worse than pork, for example

Such figures are usually "per gram of protein", in which case, sure. Thing is, it's very common for people to eat 200+ grams of pork in one meal, whereas e.g. grated cheese on a pasta dish is <10g. A big slice of cheese is 25-28g, and half the time it's significantly less than 100% actual cheese, with a good amount of filler. The only cheeses that one might eat 50g+ of in one sitting are extremely mild ones like mozzarella, and those are the easiest to replace.

[hombre_fatal]

You are definitely from a culture that doesn't guzzle cheese like Americans. So out of curiosity I went to your comment history and your previous comment was "Here in Korea".

Yeah, growing up in the US I ate more cheese than meat which is probably super common among US kids. I'd devour the whole bag of cheese sticks if I could. And you can look at restaurants like tex mex where the enchilada sits in a lake of cheese. Or go to Olive Garden and try to find someone who stopped at <10g of cheese when the waiter is asking you when you want him to stop shredding it over your pasta.

Anyways, I bet it can be hard to transition from this dairy-heavy lifestyle to a plant-based diet. I personally gave up the idea of a cheese substitute entirely except on vegan pizza where it's dominated by other ingredients. It's just not as good.

Since there is animal-free dairy milk (https://tryboredcow.com/) on the market I wonder when we'll see animal-free dairy cheese.

[jjani]

I did spend more than a decade living in a European country famous for its cheese - your nearby supermarket will have some cheese from there :) Was talking about it in that light; Korea is a completely different story.

What you're saying could be true for the US, but in Europe people tend to put 1-2 slices of cheese on their bread, or grate it over something. Even if had as part of a platter with crackers, like with brie, it's nowhere near that much. For cacio e pepe, where the whole sauce is cheese, you only use maybe ~25g per person. This [1] is what 200g of pecorino romano looks like. Good luck eating all of that in one sitting - or don't, as you'll 100% regret it!

> I'd devour the whole bag of cheese sticks if I could.

If we take all cheese sticks that have been sold across the world in the last 24h, I'd be surprised if more than half their total weight was actual cheese.

[1] https://gastronomica.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Pec.-R...