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by udev4096 338 days ago
The last statement is totally uncalled for. Yes, matrix is not convenient and given it's far from ideal chat experience but that doesn't mean you are allowed to spread FUD. Matrix spec, clients, homeservers, etc are fully open source. No one is "scamming" anyone
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j45 338 days ago
No horses in this race for or against the Matrix group, but convenience, adoptability is a fair factor to look at in software, especially collaboration and interaction based software.
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udev4096 338 days ago
It's gaining traction. Matrix will prevail, sooner or later. Don't give up on it just yet
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josteink 338 days ago
The year of the Matrix desktop?
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vitonsky 337 days ago
Matrix community scam everyone when claim a matrix is a privacy-focused. And you are part of this community who deceive people. The fact that anything is open source is not make it "privacy focused".

Literally everything in Matrix is designed against privacy and security. Check issue I mention above. The product that is "privacy focused" would never have such type of problems that will force developers to say that lack of encryption for chats is a minor problem that will not be fixed.

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Arathorn 337 days ago
your issue is complaining that matrix-bot-sdk can’t exfiltrate encryption keys which predate it joining a room? this feels like a pretty reasonable limitation. if you really need this, use matrix-rust-sdk with MSC4268 enabled.
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vitonsky 337 days ago
No, as i wrote in issue title and explained twice in this thread, the problem is bot SDK does not support encryption. It must work by default, for "privacy focused" application. Chat with no encryption must be an option, not default.

Matrix protocol is over-complicated, as consequence any SDK and even clients are over-complicated too, that eventually makes any interaction with Matrix is difficult, unpleasant, and error-prone.

Matrix design is error-prone by its nature:

Keys exchange confuses many users, I had many questions of people who are not programmer.

Matrix encourage login at random sites who up their web client, that is critical security problem.

But a Matrix fans are blind to a problems. This is why I don't believe Matrix will transform from marginal chat for freaks to a mainstream chat where people talk. So eventually, Matrix is a platform where Matrix fans talks about Matrix and send porn to each other.

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Arathorn 337 days ago
matrix-bot-sdk does support encryption: https://turt2live.github.io/matrix-bot-sdk/tutorial-encrypti...
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vitonsky 337 days ago
Check discussion in GitHub issue https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-bot-sdk/issues/363

Quote > Decryption of messages in encrypted rooms always end with error `Error: Can't find the room key to decrypt the event`

Maintainer action is "turt2live closed this as not planned on May 10, 2024"

It's all you need to know about a goals of Matrix and its success.

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