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by anonzzzies 334 days ago
Look at those people shouting this will be AGI / total disruption etc. Seems Elon managed one thing; to amass the dumbest folks together. 99.99% maga, crypto and almost markov chain quality comments.
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99% of AI influencers are the same people who emailed you pictures as a Word attachment a year ago.
This is what put me off Claude Code. When I wanted. To dig in, I tried to watch a few Youtube videos to see an expert's opinion it, and 90% people who talk about it feel like former crypto shills, who, from their channel history, seem like have never written a single line of code without AI in their lives.
As someone who doesn't keep track of the influencer scene at the moment because I am way addicted to building...

You should totally give Claude Code a try. The biggest problem is that it is glaze-optimized, so have to work at getting it to not treat you like the biggest genius of all time. But when you manage to get in a good flow with it, and your project is very predictably searchable, results start to be quite helpful, even if just to unstuck yourself when you're in a rut.

This. Claude Code was the only one to be able to grok my 20 year old C++ codebase so that I could update things deep in it's bowels to make it compile because I neglected it on a thumb drive for 15 years. I had no mental model of what was going on. Claude built one in a few minutes.
I will try it. I did use Cursor agents beforehand (using Sonnet/Opus 4), and my problems were that it was slower than I was (meaning me prompting AI), and was not good enough to leave it unattended.
It annoys me to experience the huge discrepancy between content on social media on AI versus actual enterprise use. AI is happening, it's absolutely becoming integral parts of many businesses including our own. But these guys are just doodling in MS Paint and they're flooding the channels.
Enterprises are in the same situation as you are. Many of them are posting marketing about AI without actually having AI. They are using OpenAI API's to say they have AI.

I can count on my hands the number of enterprises that actually have AI models of their own.

just curious, why does an enterprise have to have their own model? company can use ____ (someone else’s model) and still accomplish amazing AI shit in their products
Because I am not permitted to share my code nor client information/data with unapproved third parties; it’s a contractual obligation. So; we train our own models to do those things.

I use Claude Code for building products that don’t have these limitations. And fuck is it amazing. Even little things that would have taken days are done in a single line of text.

Because data protection and privacy compliance hasn’t caught up yet.
> Many of them are posting marketing about AI without actually having AI. They are using OpenAI API's to say they have AI.

And somehow these companies are now "AI companies", just like in the 2010s your average food market down the street was a "tech company" or the bakery next to it is now a "blockchain company". This happens all the time with bubbles and mania.

These enterprises today appear even more confused about what they do to rebrand themselves and it's a sign they are desperate for survival.

Claude code is good though: no need to watch influencers for that. Or ever.
I get it, but have you reviewed high-quality sources or actually tried the product?

Association fallacy: “You know who else was a vegetarian? Hitler.”

Your contrary certainty has the same humorously over-confident tone.
Which is how and why these political strategies work so well.
It’s incredible how few people can see their own reflection.
I'll believe in AGI when OpenAI stops paying human developers.
I don’t see how this follows. Does AGI mean that it is free to operate and has no hardware / power constraints?

The fact that I see people being paid to dig a trench does not make me doubt the existence of trenching machines. It just means that the tool is not always the best choice for every job.

> Does AGI mean that it is free to operate and has no hardware / power constraints?

It is that and an autonomous system that can generate $100BN dollars in profits. (OpenAI and Microsoft's definition of AGI)

So maybe when we see a commercial airplane with no human pilots on board but an LLM piloting the plane with no intervention needed?

Would you board such a plane?

Extreme rhetoric weakens arguments. Would you let Albert Einstein perform open heart surgery on you? AHA! Maybe he wasn’t that smart.
AGI???? Again, once again, over again, yet again, one more time:

(1) Given triangle ABC, by means of Euclidean construction find point D on line AB and point E on line BC so that the lengths |AD| = |DE| = |EC.

(2) Given triangle ABC, by means of Euclidean construction inscribe a square so that each corner of the square is on a side of the triangle.

Come ON AGI, let's have some RESULTS that human general intelligence can do -- gee, I solved (1) in the 10th grade.

We have to wait and test it ourselves to see how far it gets in our daily tasks. If the improvement continues like it did in the past, that would be pretty far. Not quite a full researcher position but an average student assistant for sure.
Wasn't Sam Altman claiming AGI is just a couple of years away and OpenAI is at the forefront of it?
Maybe this won't be. How long do you think a machine will be able to outdo any human in any given domain? I personally think it will be after they are able to rewrite their own code. You?
They write their own code now so how long will it be?
Seems like this will be one of the areas that will improve with multi-agentic AI, where groups of agents can operate via consensus, check/test outputs, manage from a higher meta level, etc. Not that any of that would be "magic" but the advantages of expanding laterally to that approach seem fairly obvious when it comes to software development.

So in my eyes actually think it's probably more to do with reducing the cost of AI inference by another order of magnitude, at least when it comes to mass market tools. Existing basic code-generation tools from a single AI are already fairly expensive to run compute wise.

They "can" write parts of it. But they can't rewire the weights. They are learned not coded.
> I personally think it will be after they are able to rewrite their own code.

My threshold is when it can create a new Google

Why not putting it earlier than that. Why not starting and running it's own LLC. I would think when that LLC is bigger than Google it might already be obvious.