[deanc]

The reality is the data that is gathered is so much more valuable and accurate if you gather consent when you are running a business. Defaulting to a minimal config is just not practical for most businesses either. The decisions that are made with proper tracking data have a real business impact (I can see it myself - working at a client with 7 figure monthly revenue).

Im fully supportive of consent, but the way it is implemented is impractical from everyone’s POV and I stand by that.

[bfg_9k]

Are you genuinely trying to defend businesses unnecessarily tracking users online? Why can't businesses sell their core product(s) and you know... not track users? If they did that, then they wouldn't need to implement a cookie banner.

[deanc]

Retargetting etc is massive revenue for online retailers. I support their right to do it if users consent to it. I don’t support their right to do it if users have not consented.

The conversation is not about my opinion on tracking, anyway. It’s about the impracticality of implementing the legislation that is hostile and time consuming for both website owners and users alike

[owebmaster]

> Retargetting etc is massive revenue for online retailers

Drug trafficking, stealing, scams are massive revenue for gangs.

[JumpinJack_Cash]

Bro can you send me a link to the RJ community Whats app?

kwaigdc7 @ gmail.com

[owebmaster]

hey! Which one? you can find them here: https://nomadbrazil.notion.site/Rio-WhatsApp-Groups-cc9ae8b8...

[lcnielsen]

Plus with any kind of effort put into a standard browser setting you could easily have some granularity, like: accept anonymous ephemeral data collected to improve website, but not stuff shared with third parties, or anything collected for the purpose of tailoring content or recommendations for you.

[artathred]

Are you genuinely acting this obtuse? what do you think walmart and every single retailer does when you walk into a physical store? it’s always constant monitoring to be able to provide a better customer experience. This doesn’t change with online, businesses want to improve their service and they need the data to do so.

[1718627440]

If you're talking about the same jurisdiction of this privacy laws, then this is illegal. Your are only allowed to retain videos for 24h and only use it for basically calling the police.

[artathred]

walmart has sales associates running around gathering all those data points, as well as people standing around monitoring. Their “eyes” aren’t regulated.

[1718627440]

Walmart in the EU?

[artathred]

replace walmart with tesco or your eu retailer of choice, point still holds.

playing with semantics makes you sound smart though!

[owebmaster]

> it’s always constant monitoring to be able to provide a better customer experience

This part gave me a genuine laugh. Good joke.

[artathred]

ah yes because walmart wants to harvest your in-store video data so they can eventually clone you right?

adjusts tinfoil hat

[owebmaster]

yeah this one wasn't as funny.

[artathred]

I can see how it hits too close to home for you

[user5534762135]

That is only true if you agree with ad platforms that tracking ads are fundamentally required for businesses, which is trivially untrue for most enterprises. Forcing businesses to get off privacy violating tracking practices is good, and it's not the EU that's at fault for forcing companies to be open about ad networks' intransigence on that part.

[discreteevent]

> just not practical for most businesses

I don't think practical is the right word here. All the businesses in the world operated without tracking until the mid 90s.

[ta1243]

Why would I ever want to consent to you abusing my data?