[letmeinhere]

Would you like to count the number of spaces that various items in your manifests are indented and then pass that as an argument to a structure-unaware text file templating engine? Would you like to discover your inevitable yaml file templating errors after submitting those manifests to the cluster? Then yes, you are really missing out!

[raphinou]

A couple of years ago I was using https://kapitan.dev/ which I found really good at the time when using jsonnet files to generate the configs. I haven't used it for some time though.

[thayne]

I really, really, wish we could move away from yaml for tools like this.

[IshKebab]

If YAML is a foot-gun, templated YAML is a face-cannon.

[9dev]

I never understood why people didn’t serialize from JSON if they run a transformation step on the YAML anyway. Read JSON, alter in your favorite language, dump YAML as the last step, deploy. Instant prevention of a lot of sadness.

Yet somehow, all we have is YAML templating?

[stackskipton]

Kubectl will handle JSON without converting it to YAML. So if you are doing this, then just do kubectl apply -f deployment.json

[thayne]

So why doesn't helm output to json instead of yaml, and avoid all the problems with significant whitespace?

[Finster]

crickets

[shepherdjerred]

CDK8s works really well. I'm sad it hasn't really taken off.

https://cdk8s.io/