[UnreachableCode]

Am I the only person who hasn't found the time, money, permission from work, resources, etc to be able to produce software like this? I'm still at my corporate 9-5 where they're still making the decision on whether we're allowed to use copilot yet.

[olmo23]

They gave us copilot and honestly for me it's been a bit of a double-edged sword. I often use it with Claude 4 as model. What I noticed is that the tool is able and eager to make large sweeping modifications to the code base where I would be apprehensive and look for an easier way.

For example: changing the type signatures of all functions in a module to pass along some extra state, a huge amount of work. I ended up reverting the changes and replacing the functionality with thread local storage (well, dynamically scoped variables).

So, definitely not a panacea, but still well worth the money.

[cess11]

The local models I've tried can't write software of the kind and quality I require for work. When I'm programming recreationally I'm not really interested in automating it, since I do it for pleasure.

I have yet to meet someone in meatspace who is competent and isn't of the opinion that LLM SaaS are fine for querying out a bit of bash or Python here and there, but not much else. Sometimes people or corporations on the Internet are like 'wow, our entire repo is vibbed, so cool' and when I go look it's as if a bootcamped intern wrote it unsupervised but with a lot more Markdown I'm not going to look at, or a toy or a simple tool gluing some libraries.

[mike_hearn]

No, lots of people are in that situation. Either due to IP or cost concerns. $200/month/developer is a non-trivial expensive for most companies, given that they aren't easily able to monitor developer productivity, and as people keep observing it's not clear that the $200/month price point is sustainable given how easy it is to ramp up usage what would cost $2000/month on the API.

[yen223]

I've paid $20 for 1 month's worth of Claude Pro. So far it seems sufficient if you want to dip your toes into this form of development.

[mnky9800n]

I do stuff after work to keep up to date. Like scrolling hacker news and as my gf says “shitposting on LinkedIn”. But also I’ve been building some apps with Claude code. It’s fun actually. But I also do other stuff like gym and cycling and Russian language learning.

[dr_kiszonka]

I am in a situation where everyone uses it but is ashamed to admit it. I often spot people secretly glancing at GH copilot chat or Chat GPT.

[dismalpedigree]

Its the Ozempic of programming!

[mdaniel]

Wow, that's actually a great analogy: it's hailed as the 2nd coming to cure all of society's woes, it's trying to use a quick fix instead of making lifestyle changes, it may damage your organs, and if you stop using it you go back to where you were before or worse

[chasd00]

i'm in the same boat more or less. I sometimes ask claude for a stand alone class or webcomponent and it does that job pretty well. The attack lawyers have told me they'd burn my house down if i ever give it any of our code.

[culopatin]

Same. I can’t even get to the domains of anything ai