[al_borland]

It’s been this way for over a decade. If someone hasn’t figured it out by now, that’s kind of on them.

I’m not even sure why those two things would be asked as a single question. It seems like a very unnatural way to pose those two questions. Most humans would trip on that, especially if it was asked verbally.

[lxgr]

> It seems like a very unnatural way to pose those two questions. Most humans would trip on that

I'd assume GP only gave an example. As a pretty frequent user, I can unfortunately only confirm that Siri trips over almost every multi-part question.

This would be forgivable if there weren't multiple voice-based AI consumer products available that can handle these kinds of requests perfectly.

[al_borland]

And Apple has integrated one of them, ChatGPT, to do just that.

If they wanted an LLM answer they could have got one. They went out of their way just to take shots at Apple.

[lxgr]

I can’t talk to ChatGPT hands-free on my Apple devices, but I can to ChatGPT.

Besides that, many people don’t install any apps, and Apple not pre-installing a reasonable LLM to cater to that market just seems incredibly out of character.

And there’s enough credible reporting and personnel reshuffling happening to suggest that it’s not available yet because they failed to make it work, not because they didn’t try.

[sxg]

OP isn't asking how to use Siri to do his contrived task. OP is saying that Siri in 2025 should be able to handle that relatively simple albeit contrived task.