[al_borland]

Trump has given power back to the states for various things and seems to be consistently anti-war. Musk has been pushing the idea of starting a new political party to better represent the people and is for less regulation and smaller government.

This doesn’t sound like a couple of fascists.

[mcphage]

> seems to be consistently anti-war

…this is the guy who bombed Iran?

> to better represent the people

Do you just believe everything that people with power tell you?

[cholantesh]

>Musk has been pushing the idea of starting a new political party to better represent the people and is for less regulation and smaller government.

This is self-contradictory gibberish. Deregulation and small government for him means further weakening labour laws to the point where the interests of the majority of Americans, ie, wage workers, have no ability to advocate for their needs and no recourse when he encroaches on them.

>Trump [...] seems to be consistently anti-war.

This was already a surreal claim to make when he was sending troops and PMCs into Iraq and Syria, deploying SEALs on abortive raids in Yemen, where Saudi troops were using arms his administration provided them, oh and, I dunno, ordering the assassination of the highest military official of a sovereign nation. It becomes solipsistic in the month after he oversaw the US' direct intervention in Israel's war with Iran.

[queenkjuul]

It's only war when the guy i don't like does it. Otherwise it's "intervention" or "police action" or "limited engagement" or the term du jour

[yencabulator]

The US special operation in middle east.

[queenkjuul]

Yes it does

[msgodel]

It's fascist in the anti-communist sense sure, but most Americans would be fascist then.

[saubeidl]

Most Americans are fascist, the same way most Germans were in the 1930s.

[cholantesh]

No, it's fascist in the sense of nativism and public-private collaboration that was normative in fascist states. Most Americans are ambivalent to communism.

[msgodel]

You can't not be nativist to some degree. Otherwise all you have is an economic zone, not a country.

That's a completely ridiculous definition of fascism and again, if you pick that most Americans would be fascist and consider it a good thing.

[cholantesh]

Most Americans, who are working class, want the state to collaborate with their employers against their interests? Quite a bold assertion.

[yencabulator]

That's very much a rules for thee not for me scenario. Watch Trump regarding California and try to claim he's all about state's rights.