[alganet]

You're missing the point, but I'll entertain your misdirection for a while.

The Wachowski sisters never released a Matrix movie. One of them gave up completely, the other one also almost gave up and ended up writing just a part of it. I'm talking about Matrix Ressurrections, obviously.

Of course, none of it matters, but you're being pedantic, so, here's the pedantic response.

[kennywinker]

When someone changes their name and gender identity it’s basic courtesy to use their new name and pronouns. Yes they identified as the wachowski brothers when The Matrix (1999) was released - but they have changed and that name no longer applies to them. This is the same way you would call King Charles by that name not Prince Charles, even when describing events that happened when he was a prince.

I genuinely wasn’t trying to be pedantic, just offering a helpful correction because I assumed you were using “brothers” because you didn’t know. I hoped the “:)” would convey the good intent. Anyway, now we’re here so i’ll just say - your pedantry is incorrect, which is the worst kind of pedantry.

[alganet]

OK. Whatever this fight is, is not my fight (I have no fight, no need for one).

Do you have anything to add regarding the contents of the movie? Now it would be a good time to speak up, demonstrating that you were not just trying to interrupt me or distract me in any way.

[kennywinker]

My comment was two words. Not meant to “interrupt” or “distract” - idk how one could even interrupt in a comment thread - I posted 7 hours after you, were you mid-sentence?? Like I said, I just meant to gently correct your misgendering and misspelling. Two words. So relax, maybe consider learning to take criticism a little better?

I haven’t added anything about the matrix movies because I think you’re quite far off, and you’ve reacted to pushback terribly. But, I’ll give you a direct response to your point if you’d like? imo the social commentary in the matrix is present and abundant, it’s just aimed at a higher (lower?) level than the kind of “corporations are corrupt” or “ads are bad” social commentary that’s easiest to name as social commentary. It’s about questioning the fabric of your personal reality: your job, your home, your government, your gender, your name. The idea is that these things are a shared illusion, and can be a cage if we let them. Some of that is a cage imposed by ourselves (“I am a software developer”), some of that is a cage imposed by others (“the wachowski brothers”). If that isn’t social commentary, idk what is.

But I didn’t respond to your message because I disagreed with you - i responded because “someone is wrong on the internet” (https://xkcd.com/386/)

[alganet]

> I think you’re quite far off

No threat then. If I'm that off, why even engage?

> you’ve reacted to pushback terribly

Felt like the right thing to do.

> It’s about questioning the fabric of your personal reality

You're just repeating what I said now, but with poorer details, less references, in an angry tone directed at me instead of directing it at a more general abstraction.

I showed you where the spoon is, and you tried to use it to hit me in the balls.

However, this is not about balls.

[kennywinker]

> If I'm that off, why even engage?

Yes, exactly. That’s why i didn’t engage on the topic, just on gender indicator words and spelling.

> Felt like the right thing to do.

Reacting terribly? Ok

> You're just repeating what I said now, but […] in an angry tone

You seem to have misread my tone. Patronizing? At this point yes. Angry? Not even a little bit miffed.

> I showed you where the spoon is

Wait, is there a spoon in the matrix? I don’t remember that bit. What a detailed reference. I’m humbled

[alganet]

You're upset because the nerdy boy that explains things is supposed to apologize when confronted, specially if there's any injustice involved.

Now you're even more upset that I didn't, and I also did put you in the spotlight.

You're not fighting for some LGBT cause, you're a provocateur. You're upset because you were not able to provoke me to steer into polemics territory. The soon you admit to yourself that you're upset, the better.

Do you have any comment about the movie tropes, its relation to cyberpunk and computers, or anything actually useful for the ongoing discussion?