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by oemera 5033 days ago
It's a shame that a 'article' with so little information makes on the frontpage of HN. These days the headline needs just to name Apple and it is guaranteed to show up on the frontpage.

I wonder if someone could write a plugin to just ban all Apple news from HN.

Edit: typo.

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Sorry for posting a link with very little details.

But I think this is a breaking story and needs to be covered.

Here are some more sources: https://news.google.co.in/news/story?q=reuters+japan+apple+s...

There will be interesting news related to Apple, but all those patent cases should disappear, no matter who is involved. There is very little possibility for a constructive discussion.
If nothing else, it reinforces that people who think they are being hip when they make Apple-only or iOS-only or iOS/Retina-tailored solutions are working for the dark side(tm). Heck, even if you make mobile apps, also for Android, but do iOS first, you are part of the problem.

I think these people need to hear it again and again and again until they actually get it and stop supporting one of the least ethical companies in the tech industry today. You are giving the wicked emperor more power. Stop doing that! It wont make him any nicer.

I say keep them coming. Filtering news to ease the conciousness of people assisting "evil" makes no sense.

We should be the ones driving Apple. Apple should not be the one driving us. We've seen the result of that already.

Edit: specific industry-niche qualifier was needed.

>... one of the least ethical companies around today.

Are you serious? You believe a computer company is one of the least ethical companies?

Fair enough. Let me make an edit and prepend "in the tech-industry" to that statement and I'll stand for it.

Apple has joined the rank of patent-trolls and turned what used to be a tech-industry into a litiagative minefield where you need more lawyers than engineers to do a business. They are the front-runners of software-patents and they deserve all the flack they get for it.

I don't think there's any debating that patent-trolls are evil and that supporting them are wrong.

Did they turn it into this minefield? Or do they just play the 'evil' game better than others.

I'm don't like to split things into 'Good' and 'Evil' (as they are inherently subjective). But the patent system seems to be the problem here, and until it is removed one has to work within it.

They are not the only ones turning it into a minefield, but they most definitely participate in making it a deadly game to play. If they were using their patents in a defensive way I would have a different attitude but it seems to me they are rather aggressive in using their patents to go after people they feel are a threat.
I take it you haven't had to deal with Oracle much? That's an easy target, and I could list many more that exhibited far worse behavior than Apple has in the last ten years. But hey, Apple is the new evil for everyone who feels compelled to periodically pick up a pitchfork and torch.

I wonder what company it will be in 2020?

Apple didn't start this. Incumbents did, Apple is better at it and better funded than incumbents, yet even so settled with Nokia. Don't hate them for hitting back hard.
Supposing he meant "least ethical computer companies" it's still very doubtful, assuming all of Apple's marketing about worker conditions improvement and recycling is true or near true.

Disclaimer: I do believe walled gardens are evil and software patents should die.

I generally assume that all marketing, regardless of who produced it, is a lie.
That's a good maxim to live by, but lies come in different flavors. Are they not improving conditions at all or just not in the amount they claim they are? Are they just throwing all the recycling material they get in the dumpster or they recycle less than claimed?

I expect the latter in both cases, which put them in a better ethical standpoint than many competitors, who are just as readily patent trigger happy and actually use minor labor and recycle nothing at all.

Should be pretty easy to write a filter that removes all Apple-related news on HN. That would actually be a cool feature for a HN reader app.
I use a chrome extension called HackerNew[1] that lets you do this. Look for 'filters' on the top right of the page, once you have installed it

[1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lgoghlndihpmbbgmbp...

Do you really still expect quality content on HN nowadays? Even after that week where 5 articles along the lines of "I woke up at 5am and ate a slice of cold ham to start my metabolism" made it to the front page?
that is not true. i have been trying to get attention to a comment thread with Fred Wilson (usv) reg. AAPL and AirBnB, but in vain.