[joebob42]

This is maybe kind of rude, and hopefully it doesn't come off this way, but where were you still getting the message that degree = job? Not that a degree doesn't help, but I graduated 10 years ago and the message was already pretty clear across the media I interacted with that that was no longer the lived experience / that you needed to be thinking about your major and the future it might offer because just having a degree was not a magic ticket.

[xboxnolifes]

> that you needed to be thinking about your major and the future it might offer because just having a degree was not a magic ticket.

A CS degree was the major people "should have been thinking about" until recently.

[tayo42]

This was my experience.

We never really recovered from the 08 crash imo. That was a changing point I think that doesn't get enough attention.

[astrange]

We did recover, in 2019 and then again in 2024.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300060

Literally nobody noticed because everyone had covid trauma the second time, so we had a "vibecession" where everyone felt like there was a recession because they wanted there to be one.

[tayo42]

11 years later. I know the numbers say we recovered. It took so long I think people mostly forgot what pre 08 life was like

2008/9 was a change in the expectations of college degrees. Going into 2008, we all got the advice to get degrees and jobs will just show up. After the crash we never got back to that point. Common knowledge ever since 08 has been college doesn't ensure a job at the end and your stuck doing unpaid internships and dealing with a competitive job market

[AbstractH24]

11 years is a blip in society, but at least 20% of most people’s working years.

[yash1hi]

Not wrong! The degree was always the stepping stone, and even for me I was always told work experience would make the difference. But now having graduated college 2 years early, with 2 high quality internships under my belt, my options are slim. Thankfully, I love what I do and don’t plan to ever stop doing it, but I feel bad for the people that “did everything right” and still aren’t landing jobs.