[kstrauser]

Consensus from friends after I posted that is that attackers monitor the Let's Encrypt transparency logs and pounce on new entries the moment they're created. Here I was using Caddy, which by default uses LE to create a cert on any hosts you define.

I can definitely reproduce this. It shocked me so much that I tried a few times:

1. Create a new random hostname in DNS.

2. `tail -f` the webserver logs.

3. Define an entry for that hostname and reload the server (or do whatever your webserver requires to generate a Let's Encrypt certificate).

4. Start your stopwatch.

[lucb1e]

Thanks! CT logs do explain it. So it's not actually the DNS entry or vhost, but the sharing of the new domain in a well-known place. That's making a lot more sense to me! I can see how that happens unwittingly though

We also use CT logs at work to discover subdomains that customers forgot about and may host vulnerable software at (if such broad checks are in the scope that the customer contracted us to check)

[kstrauser]

Yep, that’s right. And I guarantee, like would bet my retirement savings on it, that someone today has counted on security through obscurity and not realized their new website was compromised a few seconds after they launched it for the first time ever. “I just registered example.com. No one’s ever even heard of it! I’ll just have to clean it up before announcing it”, not realizing they announced it when they turned the server on.

3 seconds.

[snickerdoodle12]

I had a similar fun experience when I was generating UUID subdomains and was shocked to see traffic in the logs before ever sharing the URL. I've since switched to a wildcard certificate but regardless, you can't really trust the hostname to be secret because of SNI and all that.

[kstrauser]

That would’ve been quite the surprise! I was initially shocked enough when @ and www were getting hammered. A fully random hostname would’ve dazzled me for a bit.