[Mawr]

> I think they are both ineffective. So I don't believe that is true.

Well, I know doing nothing is ineffective. Might as well do something.

[ReaperCub]

On this particular issue, that something can't be political. Assuming anything can be done at all.

There is no support from the public and I don't be believe there ever will be, and there is no/very little support from any of the political parties.

Even in places where you would think they would be against such legislation, the disagreement is often how it is worded.

I would rather this not be the case. But I have to accept reality and exist within the confines of it.