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by PakistaniDenzel 335 days ago
No - being a mom and having to work full time sucks. Being a full time mom probably isn't that bad.
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In many HCOL cities, for many couples, SAHM isn't a financially feasible option.

Also, as a full-time mom, you’ve given up autonomy to your husband (since he controls the finances). While women can leave the relationship whenever they want, their careers often suffer, and they can’t just pick up where they left off.

Women can leave and get alimony, child support, and often times greater custody of the kids.

Men don’t want to take that risk, so many men opt out of marriage as well.

Alimony is temporary and fixed, whereas careers are not only life-long, but have compounding growth.

There is a significant financial gap between a divorced woman in her 50s with only five years of alimony remaining and a career woman in her 50s with a $400,000 401(k) balance.

You forgot to mention child support which is for up to 18 years. Also, nothing stops the woman from having a career, especially if she cooperatively shares 50/50 custody, but often they prefer aiming for nearly 100% custody because it increases their child support payments, and then still have the option to cry victim that they’re a single mother despite getting thousands of dollars a month and they’re actively preventing the father from being involved with the kids. Happens a lot.

As for a stay at home mom who doesn’t get divorced, she doesn’t need to be entirely stay at home for all 18 years.. kids go to school at 5 and can go to after school programs if necessary while she works. A couple years before that if the kids are in pre school she could get a degree or masters degree or work part time. So the career gap could be minimized.

Child support is until the kids become independent not 18 years, which I don’t know if you’ve checked these days but kids stay at home indeterminately
Probably depends on the state, but last time I checked it was until 18 or high school graduation, but not later than 19, in the state I’m familiar with.
Western Marriage is a contract where one party is rewarded for breaking the terms. The low marriage rates of Millennials / Elder Z [1] are indicative of this new world order. It isn't just "because men!!".

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/MediocreTutorials/comments/18lhait/...

In my state Alimony is neither temporary nor fixed, depending on the length of the marriage.
That notion was the origin of the MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) movement before it got taken over by misogynistic incels that were never going to get a woman anyways. The ultimate in sour grapes mentality. Like saying "You can't fire me because I quit" before you were even hired to begin with.
> In many HCOL cities, for many couples, SAHM isn't a financially feasible option.

Sure - a combination of a race to the bottom on working hourse and supply/demand for housing.

We need major tax breaks for single income households and to legalise building homes.

But isn't both the stereotype and how it works in practice, that the man works and the woman controls the finances? I mean "housewife education" was mostly accounting.
You all created this economic disaster with high taxes and high cost of living via your voting patterns and you own it now. I'm sure I'll be downvoted to hell for saying this, but it is, in fact, the truth.
If voting could change something, it would be forbidden. See Romanian presidential election.
Some Women who are full time mothers report feeling isolated. Many chose to keep their job even if all the money goes to day care.
Making friends irl is hard when everyone has TVs and phones
There's also the benefits of career progression, avoiding a long resume gap, saving for retirement, not being financially dependent on your spouse, and increased financial resilience for the family.
The newborn phase is still pretty uniquely brutal compared to most jobs.
If you read forums of new parents (e.g. parenting subreddits), the common consensus is that being a stay at home parent is far harder than a job.
As a counterpoint, I am a stay at home parent right now because I’m on paternity leave and it is by far the best time I’ve ever had in my life
Parenting subreddits have alot of the most extreme situations.

I have a child, alot of what I read on these internet groups isn't relatable.

I have two cousins who became stay at home dads, and something really interesting is that the mothers claim that being a stay-at-home parent is exhausting grueling thankless work, and the fathers who are stay-at-home seem to love it! It seems that generally speaking, either fathers are too negligent, mothers are too neurotic, or some mixture of the two is happening.
As a daily Reddit user, I can definitely say to take anything from subreddits with a grain of salt.
Everything worth doing is hard.
"is hard" ≠ "sucks"
Being full time mom sux. Genuinely.
All modern problems are capitalism problems
I can think of some communism problems that are not capitalism problems. Central planners causing famine that kills millions not once but twice that I know of. Also reports from communist nations sound like living under communism sucks balls.

I suppose the Nordic socialist democracies are pretty nice. They probably have birth rates below replacement levels as well though. It turns out if you offer women the choice to have a career, enough of them take it that you drop below the replacement rate.

You forgot the "/s", or do you actually believe that it's capitalism's fault is a mother taking care of her children is "unpaid labor" ?