[hiAndrewQuinn]

>little to no financial growth or benefit to the local economy. Look at Venice

A quick Google search confirms tourism is the dominant industry in Venice. The claim that this fuels "little to no financial growth", is therefore first-order backwards. If you could set forth an edict and gradually empty Venice out into a touristless town over the next 5 years, you would probably see economic growth tumble downwards, not up.

Now capitalism would eventually catch up, it always does. Italians are cool people and hard workers. But ask e.g. the Baltic states whether they're secretly happy they lost ~a century of economic growth before finally getting the chance to enter a boom time, because it meant their economies stayed local. Then ask them another question: Suppose you didn't have much industry of note, but tourists just loved you and flocked from all over the world to see you, would you take that? I think you'd have a lot of takers.

One should a much stronger argument than "But... but tourism is icky" before you go messing with one of the primary economic levers of a whole city. Preferably an argument backed up by graphs and forecasts, because it runs contrary to basic economic wisdom. Absent those I feel comfortable guessing that the median Japanese town which bans tourists will probably suffer economically for it, in no small part because that suggests tourists were at some point a big deal. Any eventual industrial rebound, if it happens at all, will happen because they gradually became cheaper to work in than surrounding areas (I wonder why?), and would not be sufficient to make up for the lost compound growth of the 5-10 years where a key industry for that area was kneecapped.

[movedx]

> A quick Google search confirms tourism is the dominant industry in Venice. The claim that this fuels "little to no financial growth", is therefore first-order backwards.

How much of the money stays in Venice? Just because you handed over cash at a till in a cafe in Venice, doesn't mean a single local sees a lick of that money. They might not even see a lick of the taxes, neither. I've been to Venice... have you? Thanks for Googling about Venice, but try going and speaking to the locals, because I have.

[XuMiao]

The claim that “tourism has little financial benefits to the local economy in Venice” is debatable and context-dependent. Here's a detailed breakdown addressing both why the claim may be true in some aspects, and why it may be misleading or false in others.

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Arguments Supporting the Claim:

1. High Leakage of Tourist Revenue

Much of the tourist spending in Venice ends up outside the local economy:

Many hotels, cruise lines, and travel agencies are owned by foreign or non-local entities.

Revenue often flows to large tour operators, not to Venetians themselves.

Day-trippers (especially cruise passengers) spend very little per capita.

2. Overtourism and Cost Externalization

The externalities of mass tourism (e.g. garbage collection, water bus crowding, maintenance of ancient infrastructure) are borne by the municipality and residents, not by tourists.

The economic cost of wear and tear on fragile historical structures is immense and undercompensated.

3. Loss of Local Businesses and Services

Traditional shops and services (bakeries, fishmongers, schools) are being replaced by souvenir shops and Airbnbs, which often serve short-term tourists.

This creates a "hollow economy" where real life becomes unviable for locals.

4. Depopulation and Real Estate Inflation

Real estate is increasingly purchased by investors for short-term rentals, pushing locals out and reducing residential density.

Venice’s population has dropped from ~175,000 in 1950s to under 50,000 today in the historic center.

5. Low Multiplier Effect

Much of the employment created is low-paid, seasonal, precarious, and lacks career development.

Limited reinvestment into the community fabric (education, public health, sustainable infrastructure).

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Counterarguments (Why Tourism Still Brings Economic Benefit):

1. Tourism Is a Major Employer

A significant portion of Venetian jobs is in hospitality, transport, and retail, all tied to tourism.

Completely removing tourism would collapse the current local job market.

2. Tax Revenues

The city imposes tourist taxes (tassa di soggiorno) on accommodations and more recently, even entrance fees for day-trippers.

These can help fund infrastructure and conservation—if well-managed.

3. Export Substitute

Venice doesn’t have a diversified industrial base. Tourism is one of the few export-equivalent services Venice can offer due to its geographic isolation and fragile ecosystem.

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Conclusion

While tourism contributes significantly in gross economic terms, the net local financial benefit is undermined by:

revenue leakage,

rising costs of living,

poor job quality,

and infrastructure stress.

Thus, the statement is partially true: mass tourism as currently structured in Venice is unsustainable and offers diminishing marginal returns to locals, especially compared to the burdens it imposes