[secabeen]

The simplicity of EVs is one of their big strengths! Compare all the cooling, transmission, lubrication and fuel systems of an ICE car to the simple Electric Motor of an EV. Vastly simpler. As an end user, I see it to, my EV has no scheduled maintenance, whereas the ICE wants me to take it to the dealer every 20k miles.

[MisterTea]

Mechanically simple, yes. Electronically simple, no.

[jcgl]

But most of that electronic complexity is just as present in ICEs as in EVs, no? It’s not like most of it is in the drivetrain. All those auxiliary systems.

[MisterTea]

> All those auxiliary systems.

That's the problem. I don't need or want any of that extra nonsense. You can't replace the radio in these contraptions. The only thing a car needs is: drive-line control, braking/ABS/ESP, steering, HVAC. Electronics wise dump the lame glued on tablet look and just give me a single up front dash display and a double DIN cutout in the dash. HVAC only needs knobs. I hope a Chinese auto maker comes out with an EV that dumps all of this stupidity and just gives us cars again.

[secabeen]

Backup cameras (and the associated display in the dash) are a significant safety improvement. I wouldn't want to buy a car without one at this point, despite the increase in tech that it necessitates.

[jcgl]

Right, I agree. But the context was about the differences between ICE BEV. And they, afaik, have comparable bells and whistles.

[zdp7]

Take a look at https://www.slate.auto

[WorldMaker]

To be fair, modern PV cells are purely solid state (no moving parts, no lubricants or coolants), so a solar system shouldn't add a scheduled maintenance burden, just add to potential unscheduled maintenance costs in worst case scenarios.