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by noracists 339 days ago
Sending people back to their home country, especially when 50% are criminals, is not the same as the holocaust. Comparing it to such is disgusting and insulting to the actual victims of Nazi violence.

ICE is often operating in a racist and dehumanizing way, but it is nowhere near the level of organized atrocity that it is regularly compared to.
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rixed 339 days ago
I agree that it this comparison is overblown, and do not believe in general that this kind of overstatements do any good to the cause of those who make them.

There is something in common though: that very dangerous belief that lying and ignoring the law is justified by the end goal. Speaking of lies, where did you get this statistics that 50% of expulsed immigrants are criminals? Even their own statistics (https://www.ice.gov/statistics) show that a small minority have ever been convicted (and I would assume that most of those convictions would not be very serious crimes)

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noracists 339 days ago
was posted on HN within the last week

https://www.openice.org/

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tristanb 332 days ago
If the data on that site is correct, it says 26%.
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tristanb 339 days ago
50% are criminals? Do you have a source for that?
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noracists 339 days ago
was posted on HN within the last week https://www.openice.org/
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ceejayoz 339 days ago
The Nazis actually openly considered deportation before settling on the Final Solution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

The Holocaust involved quite a bit of large-scale deportation to concentration camps.

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/how-and-why/how/deport...

> In the autumn of 1941, approximately 338,000 Jews remained in Greater Germany. Until this point, Hitler had been reluctant to deport Jews in the German Reich until the war was over because of a fear of resistance and retaliation from the German population. But, in the autumn of 1941, key Nazi figures contributed to mounting pressure on Hitler to deport the German Jews. This pressure culminated in Hitler ordering the deportation of all Jews still in the Greater German Reich and Protectorate between 15-17 September 1941.

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