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by systemvoltage 333 days ago
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Wealth is power. Power decides what we use our collective time and resources on. The more concentrated power is, the less we use that time and resources on things that improves the life of the average person, and more on things that matter to the few with wealth.
By far the biggest concentration of power is the US federal government.

Any power centers outside that decentralizes power.

Sure, but in its current form that power can be bought and therefore mostly serves the interests of capital. That should be obvious at this point.
I’m going to assume that this is just some edgy post, but you should read up on the relationship between wealth inequality and corruption, social mobility, and similar factors.
Advocating for increased concentration of power is quite a take.
Assuming you're not just a troll, it doesn't seem very reasonable to be against something simply because many people support it.
Not trolling. It has served me better than most heuristics.

If there is something subjective and if you cannot find a critique of it, it’s usually a super power to assume the opposite is true barring obvious exceptions.

You can't find a critique of extreme wealth concentration? There are many. Here's one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Ce...
No, I can’t find a single article praising wealth concentration.
I can't find a lot of articles that praise genocide, either. Would you support genocide just to be contrarian?
Can you write off everything popular with the normie zeitgeist?
I would say if there is a decline in society, the normies are wrong. And if there's steady improvement in quality of life, then the normie zeitgeist is correct. But there's always a delay in these things, at least a generation.
I don't think that applies when the normies lack power; which is precisely the problem with wealth concentration. That would be like blaming the serfs for the failures of feudalist governments.
There's a reason we don't have feudalist governments. It's a "solved" problem.

The normies may have much less power, but it's never zero. Wealth isn't the only form of power. There's law/politics and there's military power. Whenever a group oversteps, you get the Magna Carta, you get secularism, you get civil wars and your Second Amendment. This is why the French Revolution and The Civil War(s) are in the textbooks.

When Venezuela's economy collapsed, a South American friend said that they deserved it. Every other South American country fought corruption and died for independence.

We never want violence, but it is there as an option. Laws and economic policies are there to make sure the violence is never the best option. Non-democratic capitalism doesn't work because it puts the law and the wealth in the hands of a few and leaves force as the only option. The world didn't suddenly convert into communism because Marx and Lenin were handsome demon lords; they converted because capitalism pushed them into a corner.

When you have this decline, it's because a society had weak and corrupt lawyers, statesmen, and economists. These may not be your normies, but they're pretty close to the middle class.

But you don't get to praise capitalism for the cheap air conditioning and then criticize it when low costs push production overseas. You can't negotiate for the high salaries then blame greedy CEOs when you get replaced by someone cheaper. You don't get to charge "as high as possible" and then wonder why your doctor is charging your life savings to save your life. The normies built a culture around winning and lopsided power, then are shocked when power is used against them.

Oh well in the case, we should just wait and see and die.
What if QoL improves for some but goes down for others?
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.
The full quote is less bleak.

Democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

~Winston Churchill

How would we be able to measure decline?
> simply because opposite of this is the prevailing normie zeitgeist

We'd love to be able to have reasoned discussions about economics and the pros and cons of wealth concentration vs redistribution here. But this is not the way to do it, and the comment led to an entirely predictable flamewar. Please don't do this on HN, and please make an effort to observe the guidelines, as you've been asked to do before.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Man it's hard to read stuff like this on the internet. When has wealth concentration ever been a good thing? Wealth is power and power leads to abuse almost universally.
Capitalism is made possible by the people. If it does not serve them well, it should be fixed or abolished.
You underestimate the resources the subset of society who it actually benefits can, will, and do use to distort views on how wide that benefit actually is.
Like all of the startup founders and all of the folks here working at tech companies and investing in their 401ks, happily cashing out RSUs, and such right?