[leoqa]

I always like to frame it this way: ask someone what a reasonable response would be if they flew to Paris and then decided they didn’t want to leave. What is the French government allowed to do in their moral framework to enforce their immigration laws.

People don’t have a great answer. The asylum process actually works- it just turns out that many, many cases aren’t valid and it was abused to gain entry once we allowed asylum seekers to remain in country.

[djleni]

I’m sure some people don’t like any deportations, but I think the reason the bulk of people are upset with the current administration’s approach is its insane militarization, lack of due process, refusal to identify, apparent targeting of normal hard working people, sending people directly to foreign prisons, and sending people to war torn countries they are not from with minimal notice and no opportunity to contest.

Not that deportations are happening.

[leoqa]

Absolutely agree. I think the tactics and strategy are to blame here but ultimately I don’t think the administration is doing anything illegal. All cases I’ve seen where there was an alleged violation of due process were simply accelerated asylum denials with immediate deportation orders. I’m sure there have been some though, but I know local police, HSI and ERO folks that really don’t want to arrest non-criminal laborers yet are just following orders from the admin. I would be highly suspicious of any conspiracy that federal law enforcement agents are committing illegal arrests.

If it were up to me, I’d be pursuing some type of visa reform for permanent laborers that grants amnesty for those here with American citizen family members (i.e. birthright kids) as of a certain date. I’d make the asylum process occur outside of the country, signing agreements with the originating countries like Guatemala, Honduras to provide housing and food for asylum seekers while they pursue a claim.

[int_19h]

My answer would depend strongly on where the person is from and what their circumstances are like there.